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writes:Ok...so I have finally reached the point where I am literally forced to realize the great bulk of American women are not material for marriage. However, there is a great alternative and I have gathered enough information to set about it next summer (I will be 26 by then). I am fairly good looking, on good track towards graduating withing two years with a BS and young. I know the only type of women who can move my heart would be an extremely feminine one (I am very masculine and chauvanistic and proud of it). However, feminine women has always been my greatest weakness.Can any guys share any of their experiences in dating foreign women? Reply to this Question
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reader, anonymous, writes (21 April 2011): "If having dinner on the table is "so humiliating" for you, good. You are not my type of girl. Go be "free and independent"...
LMAO. Oh, sir you really are something.
"To have a career, You HAVE TO give up your femininity. If you don't even get something as simple as that, 1) you are even more lost than I was a few years ago and 2) you proved my point. There is absolutely nothing feminine about a career woman. It is a nasty double standard: a female in America is free to discard her femininity and DEMAND that she be respected for it and have other men be attracted to it. They call it being "free, strong and independent)."
It's official, you really are an idiot. You can keep telling yourself you're single by choice but that's obviously not the real reason why.
"Have I ever said a woman can't have a career of her own? How about you stop lying and putting words on other people's mouth? Another classic move by a feminazi. I am not intimidated by "successful" women. I just don't want them around me. Far more trouble than what is worth and that has been proven time and time again."
Do you know how idiotic that paragraph is? Lol You are beyond help.
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reader, dirtball +, writes (21 April 2011):
 "By not having a relationship ever, I can say I am barely used goods, I have yet to be contaminated by a lot of the BS that has plagued the older generations"
Really? You're awefully cynical and closed minded for someone with no first hand experience. I think you'll find disappointment pretty much everywhere you go with the attitude you have.
BUT, congrats on breaking your family's negative cycle.
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reader, Tisha-1 +, writes (21 April 2011):
 Gosh, as I look around my neighborhood at so many successful marriages, and ponder on the long-term relationships my friends and family enjoy, I wonder where you are looking for women. If your perception is that every single woman in America is loused up, I would respectfully suggest that maybe it's not so much them, as you, who has the problem. Ah well, you seem fairly certain of your position, so I won't bother arguing. There's no point in trying to change the viewpoint of anyone who knows that he is absolutely utterly right and everyone else is wrong and flawed.
Funny, we had a guy on here a while ago who was basically flogging his international marriage match service. He had a similar vein of discussion. Thing is, that kind of marketing isn't permitted here at DC, so maybe that's why he's not here any more. I expect there are many websites out there that will be happy to assist you in your search for your feminine ideal. DC doesn't allow commercial postings like those, though, so you'll have to look elsewhere.
Good luck in your searching.
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reader, eyeswideopen +, writes (21 April 2011):
 "Only feminine women need apply and, for that, I will search overseas." Please allow me to drive you to the airport.
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reader, eyeswideopen +, writes (21 April 2011):
Had a little trouble with the Chinese version apparently.
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reader, Jamen Somasu +, writes (21 April 2011):
Jamen Somasu is verified as being by the original poster of the question A feminine woman is someone who has not:1- Been promiscuous or has banged 10+ guya by the time she is 28 (the median American woman has had around 35 sexual partners by the time she is 25).2- Makes drinking a habit3- Uses drugs4- Uses "Sex and the City" and "Cosmo" as guides to her life and anything like-mindedA feminine woman is one who:1- Understand why chastity is important2- Respect others and, above all, herself3- Know that in a family, the family comes first4- Respects her man and treats like him like such; at the same time, she demands to be treated like a woman.American women fall in one or all categories of that first section while not having any of the categories of the 2nd.While I would never end up with such woman, I have a lot of respect for the woman who is in her late 30's, has banged 200+ guys, has a successful career, and be proud of it. I applaud that because it is not easy to discard her femininity and be proud of it (it is very easy to do the first alone).Unfortunetily, the great bulk of American women feel they can discard their femininity and think they are attractive enough for LTR when they are more worn out than my socks...those are the woman that I look DOWN upon. To me, they are lower than dirt. That lifestyle has consequences for everyone around them later in the years (I sure as hell ain't sticking around for that) and that is why more and more American men are simply opting for foreign women instead. You can't eat the cake and have it too...at the end, you will eat crap.
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reader, Jamen Somasu +, writes (21 April 2011):
Jamen Somasu is verified as being by the original poster of the question@ the walkin dudeTo have a career, You HAVE TO give up your femininity. If you don't even get something as simple as that, 1) you are even more lost than I was a few years ago and 2) you proved my point. There is absolutely nothing feminine about a career woman. It is a nasty double standard: a female in America is free to discard her femininity and DEMAND that she be respected for it and have other men be attracted to it. They call it being "free, strong and independent).HOWEVER...if a man were to discard his masculinity, he is quickly labeled as a wimp, punk, bitch, pussy, or even gay. If you find non-masculine men disgusting, what makes you think we think differently towards non-feminine women? It is that simple.If having dinner on the table is "so humiliating" for you, good. You are not my type of girl. Go be "free and independent"...A feminine woman would definetely not shut her mouth around me...for one, femininity is my weakness and it compels me to do things against my will. That right there says a lot...And ALL American women are like you (there isn't much difference between the UK and the US): 20+ years of indoctrination and making a paradigm of "first feelings, emotions, and yourself; fuck the rest" attitude. Have I ever said a woman can't have a career of her own? How about you stop lying and putting words on other people's mouth? Another classic move by a feminazi. I am not intimidated by "successful" women. I just don't want them around me. Far more trouble than what is worth and that has been proven time and time again.I would have to be a complete and utter moron to follow the same route and keep the cycle going. I am merely breaking that. Be "successful" and whatever...just do it by yourself (or find a mangina stupid enough to end with you).By not having a relationship ever, I can say I am barely used goods, I have yet to be contaminated by a lot of the BS that has plagued the older generations and I am the first in my family to:1- Finish High School2- Go to college3- Not be married by the age of 214- Not be divorced by the age of 215- Not have kids by the age of 216- Not be a criminal7- Not be a regular woman-beaterYeah...so bad never having a relationship with the type of females around in the west...between that and being alone, I choose alone rather than surrounding myself with bad company.I know my worth and I am not giving this worth to just some skank. Only feminine women need apply and, for that, I will search overseas.
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reader, anonymous, writes (21 April 2011): So, it seems that you define feminitity as being co-dependent. You don't think that ANY woman is capable of taking care of herself? You think that all I can do in life is depend on some guy to take care of me or work at some unskilled job? I have news for you. Furhtermore, I work 12 hours a day, not COUNTING the hours that I spend planning and preparing materials (I teach). I don't depend on someone to take care of me.
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reader, CindyCares  +, writes (21 April 2011):
 I 'd be curious to know what makes a woman "feminine "in your eyes.
What has she got to do to be feminine ? Earn less than you ? Wear lace panties ? Be afraid of mice ?
I am not being sarcastic, just honestly curious . Please fill the blanks for me .A feminine woman is a woman who....
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reader, eyeswideopen +, writes (21 April 2011):
He großer Junge, kommt über hier, will ich Ringkampf Sie bewaffnen.
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reader, eyeswideopen +, writes (21 April 2011):
Hé le grand garçon, venir ici je veux que le bras vous lutte.
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reader, anonymous, writes (21 April 2011): I consider myself "feminine" because my family has very religious roots, and I don't see any guys to fit girls who try to be feminine these days. Lets be honest. Its a balance that doesn't exist much now.American guys know it, they feel emasculated because they are, and they try to get foreign women to gain back a feeling of manliness, but its not the same. American guys aren't "manly", you just want to be while you do nothing to get there. A lot of guys here RELY on women to make them FEEL masculine, and thats an epic fail.
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reader, anonymous, writes (21 April 2011): "Your idiotic and outrageous comment that ironing, cooking, and cleaning is slavery is classic of a feminazi who feels she is entitled to sit around the house while the husband works 11+ hours every weekday"So, a woman having a career isn't "feminine". What you want is a meek, little wimp who has the dinner on the table when you get home. A woman who keeps her mouth shut and does as she's told.Saying ALL American women are the same is so idiotic it's untrue."and not end up being a 50-65 year old lady working at factories to barely support herself"Yeah, because women can't have a successful career by themselves right? The real issue here is you are intimated by successful women and need a meek little thing to make you feel like a man which, ironically, you aren't.You've never had a relationship, doesn't that tell you something?
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reader, eyeswideopen +, writes (21 April 2011):
Hey big boy come over here, I want to arm wrestle you.
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reader, anonymous, writes (21 April 2011): After growing up in the US and living there for 24 years, Ive respectfully concluded the same about MOST but not all American women. I have since moved to a country where I find ethics and morals in sex and relationships. The prominent religion in the country helps with that, too. Its what I needed and its where I am now to find my wife. I will talk your ear off all day about how Ive concluded what I have but I wont do this publicly. Message me any time man. So far, yeah, foreign women seem to scale up to matching my personality much better. Good luck pal.
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reader, dirtball +, writes (21 April 2011):
So, having NEVER dated, you've already elimated 200 million people from the running. To each their own I guess.
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reader, Jamen Somasu +, writes (21 April 2011):
Jamen Somasu is verified as being by the original poster of the question@ spinnaker
I am more than willing to go slow, brother. The thing is...there is no such thing as a feminine woman in America, much less slow. There is an exception but I think you know where I would go with this (if not, let me know).
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@tennisstar88
Typical excuse of the mediocre and the stupid. Sometimes, it pays to take someone else's experience and learn from that instead. And seeing the skyrocketing divorce rates, the hyper-aggresive marriage and divorce system (highly pro-female), the lop-sided justice system (again, highly pro-female) and the psychological, reproductive, scientific, genetic, socioeconomic, and financial reasons as to why this is so, I am choosing a path that will not lead to personal ruin in 5-10 years from (and I am not alone). After all, instinct didn't put a man on the moon; intellect did. And anyone who followed the former to heart is simply not worth the suffering later on. That is where I start studying heavily on our older male generation's mistakes.
After all, not everyone lives long enough to make every mistake themselves. And frankly, I want to move forward.
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@ the walkin dude & anonymous
I am chauvanistic in the point where there are some things we men do better than women (and I am sure there are some things women do better than men). I celebrate being a man and I want a feminine woman to celebrate being a woman.
I have never been in a relationship ever (thus, never cheated). I am not attracted to a woman who thinks she is, and acts like, a man. Why would I want a man trapped in a woman's body? That is a horrible combination which has dire consequenses later.
I have never abuse anyone. Your idiotic and outrageous comment that ironing, cooking, and cleaning is slavery is classic of a feminazi who feels she is entitled to sit around the house while the husband works 11+ hours every weekday. Classic...if that is the case, I have been my own slave since I was 6 because I was making life decisions at such young age.
Simply put, if American women don't want to value a man willing to work long hours for 20+ years so he can retire and take his wife on trips around the world afterwards (and not end up being a 50-65 year old lady working at factories to barely support herself) then I simply go find elsewhere (and there is no shotage of feminine women, women who are proud to be women and uses her femininity as her strenght). Because that femininity is my weakness; I
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reader, anonymous, writes (21 April 2011): If you're ATTRACTED to women of a particular nationality then fine, but your attitude towards American women is closed minded and ignorant!
I'm attracted to Mexican guys, but that doesn't mean that I see American guys as inferior or unsuitable for marriage.
You describe yourself as a chauvinist. Are you pursuing a foreign women because you expect her to be a submissive slave who will iron, cook, clean, and put up with abuse and infidelity from you? I can tell you that not all foreign women are like that.
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reader, tennisstar88 +, writes (20 April 2011):
 22-25 and you've had sooo much dating experience that you realize that there isn't a single American woman worth it?
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reader, spinnaker +, writes (20 April 2011):
 I have had the pleasure of dating 2 women that were not from the US. The cultural differences are striking and make the most memorable of conversations. The problem with US culture is the expectation of timely gratification. In the US it would seem potential partners are shopped around for like cereal at the grocery store. People can look at relationships as objectives rather than about the other person. It would seem also you are falling into that with your generalized comments and your rush to seek out something novel. My advice is to enjoy dating and not rush into things. If you have a tendency to rush you will NEVER make it with a woman from much slower paced more patient cultures out there in the world. Above all manners is the key. If a lady is courteous and most of all receptive of gentlemanly courtesy (e.g. waiting for you to get the door rather than snatching it open), that should tell you volumes.
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reader, anonymous, writes (20 April 2011): You're a chauvinist? Good luck finding a wife...
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reader, dirtball +, writes (20 April 2011):
LOL, American women aren't marriage material huh? Oh man...
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