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writes: Wow this is so intense! I origanly come from America but live in Canada! But I cant belive it there could be the first black president! I dont have a problem with couler and have been doing about slavery in history and I think we've came so far! I am with Barrak Obamha 100%!!!What I really want to no is what you think to?Also I thought it could be cool to hold our own mini election it wont effect the real results unfortunatly =[ lol but its cool to see what other people think! [expeasialy thos that cant vote! =(]Any responce will be fine just say what you honestley think! =] Reply to this Question
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reader, Yos  +, writes (10 September 2008):
 You know, I've read literally thousands of political forums and I've yet to see a singe person ever convinced to change sides because of it.
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reader, anonymous, writes (9 September 2008): In my personal opinion, McCain is a far better choice for President than Obama as he has no real experience for the job, yes he ran for senate but i feel McCain is much more qualified. Obama's policies are too socialist and 'spread the wealth' rather actually the major issues facing america today. Also, on a side note, i feel the democrats have really screwed up their choice of candate. Clinton was better in almost all respects, older, more life experience, better qualified etc. She was in the white house for four years for goodness sake! She knows the demands of a presidency. Plus, the whole mess of choosing the candidate has torn the party in two which means that the unified republicans are becoming increasingly popular despite the disgrace of Bush. In conclusion, i think Hilary should have been the running candidate for the democrats and she would have stormed into the whitehouse but since it is Obama, i think McCain will just about take it. Well the results in 58 days, so let's wait and see.
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reader, anonymous, writes (9 September 2008): This is verified as being by the original poster of the questionI think single handedly mccain has gave Obama the win. Lets face it theres alot of raisist people in America [not everyone] but even more would rather see a black [sorry half of many I no not black] midle classed pres than a woman vice pres.
I no! But its true they think women cant handle it which is probably why H.C got as far as she did. It was thanks to the women voters! :D x
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reader, michelleAKAmandi  +, writes (7 September 2008):
 Damn-it cupidguy... I said I was pulling myself out of this political crap and would only READ what was being said, but you make me weak...lol
AMEN
Michelle
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reader, anonymous, writes (7 September 2008): "Someone far better then Obama would have been General Colin Luther Powell."
Very true, but also someone far better than McCain. The best know better than to run for president, which leaves us with the next to best every time. It has been a long time since we have had a choice of the best. Probably not in my lifetime.
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reader, michelleAKAmandi +, writes (6 September 2008):
Sorry this isn't an "answer" response to the original poster, but I just last night made the exact same comment about something. "If we could all just AGREE to DISAGREE, it would make things easier and better"
Same as people taking creative criticism and using it to better themselves instead of getting defensive and ugly about things.
Couldn't have said it better Artistry!
Have an AWESOME day!!
Michelle
Back to helping people instead of putting myself into the political BS!!
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reader, Artistry +, writes (6 September 2008):
 Hi anybody, I think we can all be adults and agree to disagree, if we want, nothing personal. We all believe in something, which doesn't have to be about anybody else, we all have views, the fact that there is vanilla, chocolate and strawberry is proof that varietry is the spice of life. Also because I say something certainly doesn't make it right in someone else's eyes, or the reverse. Take care.
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reader, michelleAKAmandi +, writes (6 September 2008):
I was going to add another comment, but Yos... you make a great point and I did, after all, join this site to help people. Not cause conflict/disagreement which there will ALWAYS be when it comes to politics. Thanks for the nudge! ~wink~Onto the reason I joined this site.Have a wonderful day/night!!MP
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reader, Yos +, writes (5 September 2008):
I think politics should not be a part of this site. Please any future moderators don't approve questions like this. There are a thousand online communities any of us can visit if we feel the need to get political. Politics here is like pissing in the swimming pool we all have to swim in.
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reader, Artistry +, writes (5 September 2008):
Hey there, If people are happy, dappy with the past eight years then go Palin. She is a lively choice, but this sequestration of her, so she can't face the press is very interesting. Also the investigation of Governor Palin, on charges of abuse of power, is a bit serious, she may not be the vice presidential nominee on November 4, if she is indicted, and goes on trial. The final report out of Alaska is to be released around October 15 instead of October 30, unless the Republican machine, under Karl Rove can squash it. John McCain is still an arm of Bush politics, more tax reductions for the rich, less income for the middle class, more tax cuts for big businesses, no health care for folks, as one of McCain's advisors said they can go to the emergency room. Give me a break here, the Republicans care about their base which is filled with many, many rich people. Mr. McCain himself has seven houses. You think they care about the middle class, John McCain voted for ten years against raising the minimum wage, and has voted against assisting women with health care, and will absolutely replace the retiring Supreme Court Justices, with those that are as right wing as they can find, virtually assuring a reversal of Roe v Wade.
War is his means to an end in most cases, in conflict, his song "Bomb, bomb bomb Iran", was not joke, he believes it.
Don't walk around being so giddy about a vivacious, well spoken, lady who can shoot out the insulting burbs with the best of them, the two of them, are not good for the country. Besides the fact, no disrespect intended, I think Mr. McCain is suffering from dementia, and possible PTS, from being in that prison camp. We just lost another 84 thousand jobs, unemployment went up to 6.1%, and that is not even the real unemployment number, it's higher than that. The outsourcing of jobs, the reduction of jobs in the U. S. due to inflation forces, high gas prices and other things causing a reduction of disposable income, have only just begun. So shout and dance, but be very careful that you are not voting against your own self interest. Sorry for the rant, but seven freaking years is just about enough.
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reader, michelleAKAmandi +, writes (5 September 2008):
After listening "twice" to Mrs Sarah Palin's speech, I can only urge those of you who are not involved in this election to get involved. This great Lady is a wonderful speaker and an asset to John McCain.Don't listen to the media, they give very biased opinions and it is very apparent that many take their words to be the gospel, pardon that pun.. Please watch and learn for yourselves, we are seeing history in the making.She speaks for all of us, the everyday blue collar worker, the American family, the advocate for change, which she HAS a plan for. Unlike the Demo ticket whom should be concerned about the McCain/Palin popularity which I see to only grow as this campaign picks up speed.Four years down the road, I too have a vision......I see her as our first woman president..............Go Palin!!!!My opinion, it was asked!!Have a wonderful day!(Anyone being threatened by Hannah, stay safe!MP
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reader, anonymous, writes (5 September 2008): This is verified as being by the original poster of the questionyea I no its AWSOME!
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reader, anonymous, writes (3 September 2008): This is verified as being by the original poster of the questionDid you see the family stunt Obama pulled impresive no? His family is a tipical American family and they are awesome now he'd of got the family vote pluse warm hearted us all with the kids! Its like a different side to the political guy you get to see what a great family he has and to have a great family hed have to be a great guy. I no your thinking but we need a GREAT guy to run America but maybe just maybe he is . . . well mcain ye I dont need to say anything.
=] keep us updated!
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reader, anonymous, writes (21 August 2008): Tony Blair wasn't better and thats saying something. Tony Blair had his head up George Bushes arse.
At least Gordon Brown isn't a suck up. He stands for what we believe in.
Although to be fair, they're all crap and as I said before, vote Conservative.
But no one listened to a mere child...
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reader, anonymous, writes (21 August 2008): Ye lol! I'm glad I just moved from brit and I'm loving Canada! Gordan pisses everyone off! And they will all just say screw you to the leaders!
S@m x
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reader, anonymous, writes (21 August 2008): This is verified as being by the original poster of the questionWaz- that is so true! England for 1 got Gordan brown lol! Tony blair woz much better! =] I love politics! Ya no I could be pres. Thats rite you could be talking to the future pres of America . . . or maybe not. There realy shud be a female pres but H.C woz well would you want another Clinton? And [im not been meen just honest] she does'nt realy qualify as a female. =]
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reader, Artistry +, writes (21 August 2008):
Hi, Hi,
Nice to hear from you again. Remember, do your reserch, if you want to find the truth on any subject. At least find different opinions, then sort it out for yourself. Can say this, you certainly prompted a lively discussion. :o).
Take care.
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reader, anonymous, writes (21 August 2008): look if obama presient i think its going to be cool if hes pres. i mean it seems like he cares about every body than hilary i mean it seems she is a little bit too much into womens rights when she should be focusing on evry one i mean she foucus on the people who are richer ey that all im saying and i can give you some good info i heard but i cant give it to you here just ask me a question on dear cupid if want the info i have
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reader, anonymous, writes (20 August 2008): This is verified as being by the original poster of the questionI think that artistry had great points lets face it J.m speaks bollocks! Lies after lies now would you realy want some1 like that running America? Lets face it the previous presidents have been pretty shit as far as bush and clinton go anyway! Obama is the best shot!
Pheobs =]
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reader, babewithbrains  +, writes (20 August 2008):
 Oh come on - he's not THAT black...
I really don't know what the fuss is all about - America's so f***ed up already it's gonna take a genius to sort it all out. Though i suppose it is a step in the right direction.
I'm so glad I'm brittish. Things are so much nicer in Kent. Yeah -we pay tax, but boy oh boy am i glad that my (rather poor) cousins can see a doctor on the NHS and be taken care of (with in reason) til they're better.
The health service is bad in America coz no one wants to pay for anyone but themselves. Well, in general opinion, obviuosly. I know many kind willing americans, but so many up-their-own-butts i can't count them.
Ah, now i feel a lot better for having my daily rant.
Jelly
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I wish people would stop all this: blacks can do no wrong apeal. Lots of black people are bad aswell as whites. Why can't we have a happy medium and attack asia etc... Oh, wait. We already have.
At least Mister Incomprehensible Bush is going.
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reader, PsyCookie +, writes (20 August 2008):
 Oldersister:
From the vague memory I have from the History Channel documentary about that quatrain, I remember that they didn't really say what the work "Black" specifically meant. But they did connect Mabus and connecting it with some other guys named Mabus (I'm not sure if it is Raymund Mabus). They also talked about how Mabus is just a scrambled word or a word that may be missing or have added letters.
It's just like when Nostradamust talked about some guy named "Histler" that would try to take over countries 400 years after his death.
And about the voting, I'm still thinking about it. I'm fairly young (just going to turn 20) and my lack of interest of politics makes me think I will not be self-aware of what these politicians want to do. I want to be really informed before I vote, and I want to understand what the political leaders want to offer us. Most people vote in sheer ignorance (as in, not fully understanding what the guy they're voting for will do), and I don't want to be like that. I think further study in political sciences would help me understand it.... but like I mentioned before, I don't have any interest in politics.
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reader, PsyCookie +, writes (20 August 2008):
Oldersister:
It's after this pope (I read Nostradamus and I saw it in History Channel). It's supposedly to be called the "Black Pope" for some undetermined reasons.
Just clearing that up.
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reader, PsyCookie +, writes (20 August 2008):
Oldersister:
I remember I had read about it (the ethnicity thing) on my government book on high school, but then again, it was public.
I remember that for when I applied for college there was only one box for Middle Easteners and Indians: "Asian". It kind of made me laugh when my Pakistan friend was checking the box. She was laughing too.
Then again, this is my first time voting. So I cannot know at all what to do this.
But getting on topic, I don't want to care so much about all of this. I know this is my country and I know it will affect me, but making a fuss over this is so trite. Both candidates have good and bad qualities and both of them will affect us in one way or another. The only difference in them is that one is more charismatic than the other one.
And then again, I'm not thinking of voting at all.
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reader, Danielepew  +, writes (20 August 2008):
 Well, here's an answer from someone who can't vote at all and who lives in a different political environment: It won't matter much who wins, really. Whoever wins, there will be a whole system of checks and balances in place that will make sure he can't blow it beyond a certain point. Your checks and balances might be imperfect, but they work way better than in many other countries. There can be nuances in government, but there is never as strong a change in the course of the country as does happen where I live. One president or one party do make an important difference in how we live. So, I do understand the decision is important for you, because it's your president, but it doesn't sound like that to me.
By the way, where I live, we would define Obama as "mixed colour", which would make him just like most anyone else. There would be nothing special about him, and, if you understand me correctly (I'm not supporting McCain), I don't think his racial origin, or McCain's for that matter, should be important at all.
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reader, Jamer70 +, writes (20 August 2008):
 i guess Artistry said the point going through most peoples mind. Bush dugg a deep hole and people are thinking McCain will be the same, so they go for obama. WHY? prehaps the lesser of two evils, but in my opinion it doesnt make him any better. Which was your question. Personal i find Obamas socialists view annoying, just because someones is richer doesnt mean the government has the right to take more of their money. Why? maybe they wont miss it? Others need it?
I think obamas and the democrats let give money to people (who bascially sit on the arse) for no reason just makes the problem worse. I think the money should be used to give these peoples skills and they should only get money while working or learning. But his probably wont come from the Dems or GOP. But then again this stuff has to happen at state level. Futhermore i disagree with obama on the war aswell, i know everyone will hate mefor this, but i think the US and Uk are in a stupid situation based on lie and stupidity but we are there(iraq) and i dont think turning our back just because we cant see a win is right, i personally believe that will send the country into a worse crisis, i think we need to get to a point where we can leave safely (will it come, i dont know, so i feel my views mute)
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reader, Artistry +, writes (20 August 2008):
Hi there, Well I can say one thing you've got good taste. For one thing Obama is a bit too smart for most people. He has naunced positions and he talks on two diferent levels, sometimes three, so people who really don't like to think get a bit lost when he starts to talk in his slow decisive way, which I hope he will lose and start to be a bit more spontaneous, but that's his way. If a lot of people who don't like him would, listen a litte while, maybe they would understand his principles. John McCain, for the longest time has been saying so many things that are actually not even true, he doesn't know the differnce between Sunni's and Shiite's, he didn't know how many troops are in Iraq, he didn't know who is actually running Iran, the Clerics and not the President of Iran, he didn't know that it's the Chech Republic now, and not the old name. The funny thing is, if anything is funny about this, is that foreign policy and affairs are supposed to be his strong suit. His economic policy has been debuked by top economists, so what is his strong suit? He loves to lie, he'll tell you in a minute, he didn't say he didn't know much about the economy, then they run tape of him saying the exact same thing he said he didn't say, he has done that more than once, he is a habitual liar. The press just lets him roll with the garbage, because he is a war hero. But I am a political animal and I listen. He pounds Obama for having ambition, almost to the point of calling him treasonist, when in fact in one of his books, McCain said he wanted to be president because that was his ambition. What's up doc? With no disrespect intended, I really think that Mr. McCain has a touch, or more than a touch of dementia. I say that because I feel he suffers from PTS, from being in that prison camp for five years. But in seeing what the electorate of the U. S. has put in the White House lately, and the state of our country, we are bankrupt, China, Saudi Arabia, and Japan own us, the war is not being paid for on the budget. The credit crisis, housing crisis, our army is just about deseminated, and when they come home, the PTS is going to be devasting to the mental health of the kids who are serving three, four tours of duty, all because somebody tried to kill somebodies daddy. We are in quite a mess, and it's deep, regardless of what the pundits say. So, if people want to go another round with these same stupid policies, just because the other guy has brown skin, I say have at it. We are in a ditch now, let's see how much further down we can go. Forget the color, I want smart, thoughtful, caring, and sensible, and logical. Since the rich have had the run of the last seven years, why not share the wealth, I hate labels, who knows, we need a touch of a new brain, a new concept. I find nothing wrong with helping people, if the apple has a small spot inside that is decaying, if you don't stop the decay, the whole apple rots. Doesn't it say somewhere, that what you do unto the least of these, you do unto me. Why would you begrudge those who may not be able to help themselves, citing a label? Very interesting it is. There are Republicans out there in Ohio, Colorado, Indiana and Iowa, assembling as "Republicans for Obama", who are sick of attacking countries who have not attacked the U. S., torture and all kinds of other stupid things, like discarding the Writ of Habaes Corpus, which many people didn't even know is no longer in effect, and unless Congress reinstated it, we are not presumed innocent until guilty anymore. I also think this is going to be a landslide election, and not as Paris Hilton, said in favor of the wrinkled, white haired, dude.
Let's be a little more open minded and expand our Universe. Sorry to be so long winded, don't usually talk politics, but I love it. If you would like to read more
of my banter, go to:
www.socyberty.com/writers/quiet+voice.8137
Take care. Stay in touch, and don't accept what someone says, not even myself, without doing your research, it's out there, seek truth for yourself, even if you can't vote here.
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reader, anonymous, writes (20 August 2008): McCain is an arsehole
I don't think Mickey Mouse would be good but, yeah not fair off. But then its happening all over the world so, really we need a miricle.
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reader, anonymous, writes (20 August 2008): If you lot don't want him, we'll take him in the UK. Things are desperate, we'll even take Micky mouse, Donald Rumsfield or Babe the pig, if you've giving anything away. I'm telling you, we are desperate.....
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reader, PsyCookie +, writes (20 August 2008):
To Oldersister,
your race is chosen depending on your mother's or father's race depending on the state. In Texas (where I live), it depends on the mother. So when my boyfriend applied to college, he had to check on Hispanic, even though he considers himself American Indian (his father's race).
And I'm with O'Connor here. I'm intrigued too. Although I don't blame you for moving to Canada, it's a very beautiful country and probably better than U.S, but I want to know your reason too.
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reader, O Connor  +, writes (20 August 2008):
 im intruiged to know why Obama becoming president would make oldersister move to canada? the issue being?
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reader, TasteofIndia +, writes (20 August 2008):
 "First one thing that annoys me. Obama is mixed race (50% white 50% black) i have no idea why this makes him black because he is just as black as he is white. So i see him as a potential first mixed race president"
Nicely said. I'm half black and half white and it drives me nuts how everyone identifies me as African American exclusively! I'm just me is all. I hope that people really make their decisions in this upcoming elections based on ideas, stances and changes for our future, not the outside of our candidates. To vote for an ethnicity would be really silly!! Let's vote for what's important.
I think Obama is great, really. I really like his attitude, his causes and how he's really exciting the younger generations to get involved with our futures. I think that his ideas are great and that we can build a better world with him as a leader.
However, this is one election where I don't think that any of the big runner candidates are the spawn of Satan. Thank the Lord... I have hope for the next four years.
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reader, Jamer70 +, writes (20 August 2008):
First one thing that annoys me. Obama is mixed race (50% white 50% black) i have no idea why this makes him black because he is just as black as he is white. So i see him as a potential first mixed race president
On to the question even though i'm not American i see both candidates as bad choices really and both are similar in most respects bar the war, future wars and the economy. Truthfully until i see one who can fix America in turn fixing the world i can't truly like either. But my main problem with Obama is he is too much of a socialist for my liking, his tax and rebate plans just look like redistribution of wealth to me. Personally i think if someone has worked to earn money (the American dream right?) is there, because they were smart with it stupid people don't have money for long(bar kid with rich parents).
But right now i think people only listen to obama's speeches and don't actually look at the man, because they see bush as a major idiot and want an escape.
That's my two cents - But right now ive gotta get rid of brown so America can concentrate on itself
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reader, anonymous, writes (20 August 2008): This is verified as being by the original poster of the questionRealy!?! I mean John McCain!?! Okay wot about Obamah or H.Clinton?
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