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Throwing in the towel is never been an option if you love someone, or is it???

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Question - (4 March 2012) 17 Answers - (Newest, 14 March 2012)
A male Australia age 51-59, *DW writes:

I've been in a relationship for over a year. I moved 700 plus miles to be with this woman. We both come from long marriages with bad ex'es. We both have custody of our boys. Needless to say blending a family is hard. Please tell me if I'm being an ass, if there is validity in what she is saying. I moved here with the intention of marrying her right out of the gate. When I moved I took on a large house payment, all the bills that go with it, I pay cell phone for her and 2 boys, pay for her car to be fixed 1200 plus dollars, when I travel I send her flowers every day when I'm gone to let her know that I'm thinking of her, I added her to my checking and savings account, I clean up after myself, pay for everything 99.9% of the time when we are out, for her, her boys, etc.... Never say a word about it. I am constantly telling her how much I love her, how beautiful she is, and we are passionate with one another all the time. However, here is the heart wrenching baggage and details that is about to blow us up. I'm being told it is 100% my fault. I'm being told I'm a pathological liar, I'm not a man, not a marine, loser, piece of trash, and a piece of every fowl word you can muster up. Because of this: We aren't married yet, so I'm a liar. I haven't taken off from work like I said I would. I'm a liar. I haven't come down on my boys like I said I would. I'm a liar. I haven't purchased her a car yet. I'm a liar. It doesn't matter what I do, I'm a liar, and nothing is good enough. The reason we aren't married yet, is because she has constantly got angry with me over some of the smallest things, she takes things I say out of context, and puts words in my mouth that means nothing of what I'm trying to say at all and twist them. We get in arguments. That alone made me say, "I'm going to wait on marrying her"... When she isn't angry she wears her engagement ring. When she is in a good mood, or feels like it she wears it. She made comments she would sell it, to help with her moving out when she got angry. So I took the ring when she wasn't looking...I paid over 10K for the ring with bonus money, and I'll be damned if someone is going to sell it because they are angry. I've since given it back because we are engaged. But, she keeps telling me I'm no man for taking the ring. I have a son that is reeling from what his mother did, infidelity, lying, etc... to him. He is quiet. But, she yells at me because she says he is disrespectful. I understand that. I agree. I speak to him about it. I tell him how its going to be. But he just withdraws. He doesn't speak. But to her he is a disrespectful child, and she doesn't like him. She tells me I'm no man, because I don't tell him its her way or he can get the hell out basically. Her boys are respectful to me. No issues what so ever. But my son also see's how she yells at me, hits me, cusses me, etc... he doesn't care for her. But, he isn't argumentative with her. He does what she says. He is a 14 year old. She is constantly telling me her and her boys do all the work around the house. I would be the first one to admit if they did. But, they really don't do jack....She has a 20 year old that is a recluse in his room. A 17 year old that is failing, and lazy as anything. And a special needs son, who is a precious child, can't help it. I clean, my son helps with the dishes when asked, does things he shouldn't like take food to his room, but so does her sons. But, its all my fault because I haven't put a chores list up. So I'm a bad dad, bad guy, a liar, etc...We were having dinner tonight. She has told me she loves me no less than 20 plus times today. Sweet as sweet could be. Then she drinks two alchohaulic beverages, and starts talking about moving out because she can't deal with the kids, then it preceeds to go into I'm a liar, I'm a spoiled brat, I'm this, I'm that. I've done everything on my own, got to where I'm at by working hard. She comes from a wealthy family. All she talks about is her future inheritance. I bring that up to her, and she turns in the seat and starts to try and kick me in the face with her heels. Another fit of rage, she keyed my truck, wrote the word "Fuc and **" on the back of it. Because she said I lied about marrying her while I was out of town. She then said since I lied about that I was lying about where I was on business, she started assuming I was with someone else. I was in Australia on business, and here she is calling and yelling at me, calling me everythng in the book. She wonders why we aren't married yet!!! She is constantly putting words into my mouth, twisting everything I say. She accuses me of abusing her when all I tried to do is hold her hands from hitting me, and slapping me. She told me no man grabs a woman. I agree, but what do you do when they start hitting you. I was married 18 plus years. Never cheated, never would. Always focused on being a bread winner and providing for my family, and loving them. But, this woman whom I thought was it, the best thing to come into my life, and she turns out to have so much baggage, so many mental disorders, abusive in every way it ruins all the good that she has. She literally scares the hell out of me when she gets angry..She takes absolutely no blame for anything. Her and her boys are perfect, the victims. God will exact his revenve on me, and I will reap what I sowe she says.. I don't understand what she is talking about. I love her, tell her every day. But she is driving me crazy. I'm not one to throw in the towel, because she has so many good qualities, but her mental "Something" is taking its toll on me... Any points of views would be helpful...

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A female reader, Aunty BimBim Australia +, writes (14 March 2012):

Aunty BimBim agony auntwhy wait for the lease to run out, if you have access to the amount required, pay it out and leave. I don't understand why you are prolonging the agony. A blind man and his dog could see this situation is not going to improve.

I am starting to wonder if you actually like the drama, or being a victim. At the least it gives you something to talk about!

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A male reader, BDW Australia +, writes (13 March 2012):

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BDW agony auntJust to add more fuel to the fire of my ignornance...My lease ends in a few months. Trying my best to keep peace until then. Again, she had a cocktail, a long island tea. Something with a lot of liquor in it about 3 PM. Here it is 6 pm, everything has been going great for 2 days. I've been programming her own website, created accounts on Twitter for her, showing her how to market it herself, going out to eat, working out together for two days, going good. Then I go to the bedroom, she is laying down, I ask if she wants to play raquetball. She starts going off on me how I only emptied the dishwasher so my son wouldn't have to...Telling me she can't wait to move out, she has bought a house of her own, and wants me to help pay for it, pay for her move, etc...She is being an absolute ass yet again...I had a guy text me, wanting to play raquetball. She is mad because I made plans without including her to play raquetball. She tells me to play with this guy, and gets mad when we schedule court time. I asked her to go and play as well. But she makes a comment like. "Maybe you'll meet someone up there", "I don't care if I ever see you again" overa damn raquetball. This lady is driving me nuts...I know what everyone is going to say..But, damn, is it really this hard to find someone

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A female reader, AuntyEm United Kingdom +, writes (13 March 2012):

AuntyEm agony auntPeople like her deserve to be alone with no partner at all.

Forget being nice and creating NO Drama..Pack your bags and leave, you arn't married to her and you can afford to rent a place of your own.

I seriously don't know why you haven't done it yet and are still pussyfooting around trying to keep the peace.

My only conclusion is that you haven't had enough yet...but you will get to that point...personally I think you are at that point now, so time to ditch her and go find someone else who will love you and your your son for the good people that you are.

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A female reader, anonymous, writes (13 March 2012):

The alcohol may be a trigger. Could be that one drink turns her. She may be alcoholic along with other disorders. I wouldn't have stayed as long as you. You have given more to this relationship than any man I have ever had in my life....millions of beautiful woman out there are looking for a man like you!! For me, just one instance of disrespecting my kids... = deal breaker.

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A female reader, BeckySmith101 United Kingdom +, writes (11 March 2012):

God she is jealous. Next time she makes you feel bad, point out that she hasn't got enough money to pay for anything and thet you are her only resource. If she still wants you to help her, then she better give you some more respect! So what if you don't do anything else? You deserve to have some luxurays to yourself so just keep doing what you're doing but think up some remaks to say to her when she starts off again. But make sure your son isn't there or he may want to get involved. Best of luck to you!

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A female reader, Abella United States +, writes (10 March 2012):

Abella agony auntWhat possible reason is making you feel so cowered that you do everything to gain the approval of this TOXIC and CRUEL woman?

For goodness sake! She will never be satisfied. You could do a million favors for her and she will still be throwing sand in your eyes.

Please show you and your son that you still have a shred of dignity left and

demonstrate to you, and your son that your courage is alive and kicking.... And LEAVE please before she destroys the dignity and courage within you.

And it you don't value yourself enough (YET) then at least do it to show your respect and love for your son ... And LEAVE.

You had the perfect opportunity while she was out.

That opportunity will arise again.

And do NOT tell her nor signal to her in any way that you are leaving.

Protect yourself financially as detailed earlier and LEAVE.

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A female reader, Aunty BimBim Australia +, writes (10 March 2012):

Aunty BimBim agony auntwhy are you still even there?

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A male reader, BDW Australia +, writes (10 March 2012):

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BDW agony auntIts amazing how things go...I've taken everyone's advice. I'm working on a plan to move on, move out.Trying to get along and create no drama at all cost...However, I worked this morning, make breakfest, went to store and picked up some things, got some food for her and her boys, mine included, brought her back a cup of coffee. She was getting her son ready for a weekend with his dad. Asked if I would stay at the house and wait while she took her son to Rugby practice. I did, had a guy come over and fix the treadmill so she could use it. I cleaned up the house some, folded some clothes that were out, wiped things down, etc...Then I took my son to go hit golf balls for an hour while she was gone. I get back home, and she goes off on me again, because I'm catering to my kids. Starts yelling, says she's going out to be with someone else, etc...Then she says I don't do anything, except pay the rent. She doesn't have to pay rent, water, electric, cell phone, gas, etc...nothing at all. Yet I don't do anything. Then she gets mad because she told me she had to cancel her health insurance and I didn't offer to pick it up for her...Am I being the ass here, or is this woman truly a psycho-path....I am taking heed to your suggestions, but she makes me feel like I'm the bad guy, and its all my fault for everything. What I just told you above is a typical day..

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A male reader, BDW Australia +, writes (6 March 2012):

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BDW agony auntThanks everyone for providing such clear, and honest feedback. Its good to have a dose of reality from someone looking outside in to provide a clear perspective. What an idiot i've been, and how blind I've been not putting my son and his feeling in front of my own. No excuses... just poor decisions, based on clouded judgement. My son already has a negative perception of women...He believes that all cheat, or lie, or yell, or just damn cruel. More than a counselor, he needs to be in a different environment, we need to be in a different environment.

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A female reader, anonymous, writes (5 March 2012):

What a living hell your exposing your son to. You move him to a new town a new home with strangers who show no regard to you or him yet you feel you should make it work for this extremely disturbed woman. Get out now before you damage your sons psycology and make him think that all women are mean and that men are there to be their physical and emotional punch bags. Look at your post , read it like it isnt from you. How would you advice the op?

I think you are not thinking clearly in that you would look a failure to friends and family but you really need to ask yourself is this healthy for me and my son being treated like second class citizens? Get out now. You will fail your son by exposing him longer to this dreadful nightmare. He sounds like he is deeply unhappy. At 14 lifes tough enough with hormone changes and school. Your sons having to be the new boy in school with those difficulties and then to add fuel to the fire he doesnt have a happy home enviroment to come home to. Think of him and not her first

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A female reader, BeckySmith101 United Kingdom +, writes (4 March 2012):

You serious? Do you really think that she is worth it? Do you think that moving over 700 miles JUST to be with her was all worth it? your son doesn't like the woman who is hurting you and is trying to help you. she decides he is just being disrespectful and blows him off? Sorry hun. but she is NOT the sort of woman who is good for your son OR you! she isn't good for you. If you really loved her, you can't have put this question up. sorry to hear this. but its the best thing to do.

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A female reader, Aunty BimBim Australia +, writes (4 March 2012):

Aunty BimBim agony auntI have also read another question here on Dear Cupid very much like this one. It appears to have been deleted.

You say you are not one to "throw in the towel" but your story would indicate that you have indeed done just that, by leaving your son in this situation you have 'thrown in the towel' on him.

Where is your brain that you continue to expose him to this nightmare. Do the right thing by your child and remove him from this toxic environment.

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A female reader, CindyCares Italy +, writes (4 March 2012):

CindyCares agony aunt My personal point of view is that, yes, you do throw the towel some times, no matter how many good qualities a partner may occasionally show - you throw the towel when they cross certain boundaries that are a point of no return. The main one is physical abuse.

I was reading your post , tryng to evaluate the pros and cons , and the reason why you both may have contributed to make the relationship so dysfunctional, - because very seldom right or wrong are all one one side, when I got to the clincher : " hitting me ".

She hits, she slaps, she kicks, or at least she tries to. And not just once, as a freak one off accident. It sounds like it happnes quite often.

Then, game over. No negotiations, ifs and buts.

Physical abuse = end of the relationship. There's no other way to deal with it .

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A female reader, anonymous, writes (4 March 2012):

You are exposing your son to this violent and abusive woman, and you need to protect him, you need to leave

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A female reader, anonymous, writes (4 March 2012):

Take your son and run as fast as you can from this woman! Is she the person 'taking care' of your son whilst your away on busness I take it? If so then I dread to think of how she treats him when you arnt there!

Her behaviour is not normal, no amount of good qualities can over ride all those burdens you listed in your post.

I fear for your son, she is abusing him mentally and god only knows if physically. If your son is withdrawn and quiet she is the cause of this. You can't blame your ex, it is your current partner to blame!

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A female reader, AuntyEm United Kingdom +, writes (4 March 2012):

AuntyEm agony auntWow!!! She has good qualities?? Too bad you didn't list any because anyone reading this is going to tell you to get away from her.

Relationships require balance and it's hard to have an opinion on this because there is no balance here. There is plenty of violence, abuse, mistrust, accusation, inequality, manipulation, worry, pain, threats, fear and major control issues but nothing positive or good mentioned...and you want us to tell you what to do?

I don't understand why anyone would want to stay in that kind of relationship, but you are staying so I guess it can't be as bad as you paint...and if it is that bad, then more fool you for staying.

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A female reader, Abella United States +, writes (4 March 2012):

Abella agony auntI have read a question very very similar to this on Dear Cupid. But I'm not feeling like searching for it, because when I find it I may find out that it is a different person altogether. God Forbid that there are multiple men out there being emotionally and financially abused by a cruel demanding abusive partner.

First and foremost is your son.

"my son also see's how she yells at me, hits me, cusses me, etc... he doesn't care for her"

Your son is being ABUSED by this nasty woman. what he is seeing is bad for him and bad for his relationship with you. eventually your son will even lose respect for you, while you allow this evil woman to abuse you.

Your son is a child of 14 and he does not deserve this. It is your role to protect your son and while you stay with this abusive woman you are exposing your son to a terrible and terrifying situation.

But certaintly you are being financially and emotionally and socially abused.

But more to the point her own children are already turning off and retreating to their rooms.

Yes a special needs child is a HUGE EMOTIONAL drain. but you are not at fault for that.

What worries me is that your own offspring - not getting the environment and support and consideration that is an essenital requirement of good parenting.

You have seriously exposed yourself to serious financial abuse. Start quarantining your own money, start changing your passwords and acccess codes to your finances.

Start documenting the HUGE financial burden you have taken on. And document it at work and leave it at work. And print it out (to deliver it to your attorney) if ever she makes a further financial claim on you.

Make some covert plans to leave. This envirnonment and this woman are toxic. It is not loving.

You may feel you love this woman, though how I cannot believe.

You give, she demands.

You provide, and she takes.

And she is NEVER satisfied.

And she will only get worse.

Separate all your affairs from her. Make sure you protect yourself legally. And do it all quietly. Tidy up things so you can get out fast WITH your own offspring.

This woman is nasty and mean.

And she will only get worse.

And she will make it meaner and nastier over time to your offspring.

If you have been silly enough to make a Will in her favour thne change it and as soon as possible, like yesterday.

Register with the Police hat you are leaving of your own accord and do not wish to have contact with this woman.

expect this woman to use dirty tricks on you - when you leave - even accusing you of sexual abuse of your own or her children. This woman is un-naturally unhappy and potentially violent.

Quietly secure accomodation for you and your son. Do NOT give her the address

Walking away now is the Best thing to do for you and for your son. Pack your bags quietly, load the car and then go for a 'drive'

Have another residence ready for you both elsewhere.

It is NOT failure to walk away from this toxic relationship it is called SURVIVING.

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