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writes: I'm not too sure how many people will answer this question but I'm going to give it a try ....does it say anywhere in the bible that it's a sin to be gay?if it does what exactly does it say ??I think I'm bi and that's why I'm asking ....(thanks in advance) Reply to this Question Share |
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reader, Laura1318 +, writes (26 May 2008):
Some churches or denominations follow their interpretations of the Bible,
Some churches may follow a different interpretation.
Who is right and who is wrong?
God will’s everything to happen.
Only God knows why the church have a gay pastor.
Who are we to question God or the people who chose a gay pastor?
God did not appoint anyone to be my custodian of my soul.
Why do people want to be the self appointed custodian of my soul and control my thoughts and actions?
If anyone want to worship the devil or other Gods or be an atheist, that is their right.
I think it is a controversial issue to only those who do not
understand because some people want others to accept their belief.
Some wise people think they are right and only they have the
sole right to decide what u should or should not belief or
do and want to force other’s to follow what they believed.
Some of these 'self righteous and holy than thou' people
have a one tracked mind and they can only see for themself and not others.
They will show you and interpret according to their
intelligence what is said in the bible to proved their claims.
If u are a good and thinking Christian, u don't judge
because whether a person stand or sit for God,it is God who allow them to sit or stand.
What is it to you whether a person stands or sit while worshipping God?
So all those controversial issues are non issues if you follow this way of thinking.
Respect others if we want others to respect us .
But if people don't respect us, so be it…to each his own.
I can accept gay people and gay pastors and who ever judged
me , they will answer to God , just as I am answerable to God for my acceptance of them.
Whoever wants to condemned me ,let them.
I am not bothered.
At judgment day , I stand before God to answer for all my actions.
There are no perfect pastors or men of God in this world.
The only true teacher is Jesus.
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reader, Laura1318 +, writes (26 May 2008):
Prejudices in the church..
This is quite a very good article.. Believe whatever you feel is right and not to impose your views or belief on others.
If your conscience say it is wrong , then it is wrong for you.
That does not mean that everyone must follow your conscience.
http://www.gaychurch.org/Gay_and_Christian_YES/calling_the_rainbow_nation_home/8_gac_prejudice_in_the_church.htm
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reader, Susan Strict +, writes (26 May 2008):
Hi HonningKanin,
I find the Koran rather contradictory about homosexuality. There are several places that it seems to say quite clearly that it is a transgression that should be punished, and yet it also seems to promise that men who reach paradise will be rewarded with not only virgin girls but also beautiful boys. There's no doubt that the Hadith from the Prophet Muhammad is unambiguously against homsexuality, but it is the Koran itself that in Islam beliefs is supposed to be taken word for word as being the word of God. There are also, of course, disagreements in translation as well as interpretation.
I think it's important to understand what the world's major religions have to say on matters of sexuality - whether or not you agree with them. More important is, I think, to question the writings on which the beliefs are based. Far too many, it seems to me, have a basis in innaccurate translation or interpretation - or, quite simply, were no more than guidance for circumstances that no longer apply.
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reader, oldfool +, writes (26 May 2008):
Actually, HonningKanin was the first person to actually answer the question by pointing out a specific place in the Bible where homosexuality is (or appears to be) treated as a sin. And notice that she doesn't even necessarily believe in what she quoted. SusanStrict then had a look at the passage in more depth.
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reader, kittikat +, writes (26 May 2008):
HonningKanin- We are ALL an Abomination! We, with our pierced ears and made up eyes...we who sleep in our husband's beds when we menstruate...Seriously, life is changing constantly. I sincerely doubt that anyone in today's society can live up to the Bible's standards. It was written in a different time and translated/rewritten more than we'll ever know.
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reader, kittikat +, writes (26 May 2008):
Well said Laura! Honey, don't beat yourself up for feeling what you feel. It may be against what you were taught, but God gave us the ability to "feel" for a reason, and maybe those reasons aren't exactly written in black and white-the Bible has been transcribed many times over to fit a perspective and need. I know that many religions look down upon homosexuality and it has made many people completely crazy throughout history. Love is love. You love the human for who they are, regardless of sex. If you're sexually attracted to a person of the same sex, then maybe it just means that you're more open to who that person is. Lust, however, is a powerful and sometimes different thing. Our society gives people the impression that girl on girl is sexy simply because it's taboo. Of course you'll want to jump on society's bandwagon of what's "hot" and what's "sexy". That's OK too, hopefully it'll help you learn. We're all sinners from the day we're born-God expects that we'll make mistakes to find our path. Just be careful with your emotions and if you think that you're attracted to someone because of the person, go for it. Just don't be that chick making out with another in public simply for the shock value-you'll get very little satisfaction or respect for that, maybe it'll be cool at first, but if you're the kind of girl who is asking this question- I doubt it will hold much value. I don't know how to make this easy for you to understand...Just be with the person who brings you joy, no matter what sex they are. God wants us to love and spread love. Hope this helps.
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reader, Laura1318 +, writes (26 May 2008):
Whether you are a gay or not , it does not matter much because according to God, we are all sinners.
If you are a gay , you sin, if you are not a gay , you sin too.
A sin is a sin and it does not differentiate whether you are a gay or not.
All sins can be forgiven except those sins against the Holy Spirit.
Blasphemy against God or the Bible cannot be forgiven.
No one can keep all those laws .
God looks at your heart and not your externals.
There are gay pastors and gay churches.
Who are we to say they are wrong?
God is the judge and not us.
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reader, anonymous, writes (25 May 2008): look, i am not religious, but if you are and you believe that god made us all then surely he would not be angry at your homosexuality...because he created you! after all, the Bible is effectively hi word isn't it. so there's the answer. be yourself and worry about sinning when your dead.
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reader, HonningKanin +, writes (25 May 2008):
Susan Strict,
This is the bible. Everything in it is open to interpretation. Its a 2000 year old piece of crap I cant believe anyone would actually believe in or follow or should even care about what it says. I have read this thing cover to cover in english, in spanish and different version. All say the same general thing and this is what the preachers will use and if vegasgirl15 believes in the bible as it is now, cause thats what this century of christians have to deal with (I am assuming she is not hewbrew so therefor not reading the texts of Vayikra) then the answer is yes it is a sin.
After all fundementalist believe this thing to be "the perfect word"(coughs about translation).
I am still at the begining of reading the Koran so I dont know if this girl is muslim and what that "holy book" has to say about it.
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reader, Susan Strict +, writes (25 May 2008):
Actually, HonningKanin, no it doesn't.
You are quoting from the King James version, that is most probably a mistranslation.
The original Hebrew is: V’et zachar lo tishkav mishk’vey eeshah toeyvah hee, and the exact translation of it is debatable. Some scholars have even interprested it as meaning "And with a male you shall not lay in the lyings of a woman" - meaning that two men must not engage in sexual behaviour in a woman's bed!
Unfortunately this is one of the verses of the Bible where the original text is incomplete. Its full meaning is not certain because it does not finish and because the words that do survive, as I have quoted from the Hebrew above, do not make complete sense on their own.
So, HonningKanin, and all those others who said with absolute certainty that the Bible declares it as a sin, you are wrong if this is the verse you claim states that fact.
Which doesn't mean that it isn't a sin. Just that this isn't the evidence for it.
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reader, HonningKanin +, writes (25 May 2008):
If you believe in bible then you may wanna open the "good book" to Leviticus 18:22
"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."
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reader, anonymous, writes (23 April 2008): despite what the bible beaters say, there is no such thing as sin. there is evil, yes and most of it comes from the religious. remember all those good germans shoveling the jews into ovens were catholics and lutherans. all those doctrines of how evil sex is comes from the religious. in dictatorships and other tyrannies the religious are never the revolutionaries but rather defenders of the status quo. never seen the gay community tie someone to a pole and set him on fire because he thought differently. history is full of religious people doing just that. enjoy how you are and don't worry about sin....when ur dead ur dead, so why torture youself over a bunch of bs.
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reader, anonymous, writes (18 April 2008): I suggeset that you read the Bible. It dose say it is a sin for a man to lay with a man like a women. Since your attracted to men as well why don't you stick to men? I have nothing aginist gay people I have gay friends so this subject can be hard for me. But I think a man and a women were ment to be together if man and man and women and women were ment to be together then they would be able do pro create. Just think about it. your lucky that that you are attracted to men as well.Most gay people are not attracted to both sexes and I know gay people that wish they were not gay but say that they can't help it that they tried to be diffrent. Why don't you save youeself the stress of this and stay with men cause you are attracted to them and then you can have kids not that gay people can't but it's getting harder to adopt for people who are gay also you can marry a man and You can't marry a women. You realy need to do some soul searching on this. Good luck and God bless.
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reader, anonymous, writes (14 April 2008): Don`t believe in the bible, simple, problem solved. if what you do feels good, then keep on doing it, the human body doesn`t lie, its YOUR body for you to do exactly what you want with it.
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reader, Yargh +, writes (10 April 2008):
I just want to say that it warms my heart that most people have answered no. I am not gay myself, but I am all for accepting others and being open minded. Good job on everyone for answering this question with kindness and understanding, and not bringing in the intolerance we often see on this issue.
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reader, anonymous, writes (10 April 2008): The Bible says all kinds of things about all kinds of habits & rituals. Some of it is relevant and some of it is not. (Eating foods on certain days, haircuts, etc.)
The modern forms of this religion basically just preach in support of the things they like about it, and then ingnore what they don't like. It's nothing more God-given than that.
If you listened to nothing but the manmade church's teachings, you could end up thinking that homosexuality or birth control is a lot more evil than starting wars & ruining people's lives with bad government. I don't think that reflects the overall theme of what God said in the Bible as a whole. That's just bunch of angry churchgoers trying to use God's word to club others over the head because they personally disagree with them over certain smaller issues in life.
There's nothing in the ten commandments about being gay. So I find it highly unlikely that sexual orientation is on God's top list of rules.
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reader, anonymous, writes (8 April 2008): This is verified as being by the original poster of the questionthanks eceryone !!! it's helped a lot
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reader, anonymous, writes (7 April 2008): Well given that homosexual activities have been witnessed in nearly all of the mammalian species... its not as much fo a sin as you might think.
Its only as much of a sin as you let others believe it is.
Sin is a belief. And a belief is never a truth.
Only the truth matters.
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reader, anonymous, writes (6 April 2008): This is verified as being by the original poster of the questionWow I didn't expect so many people to answer my question!
thank you for all that did . It makes me feel so much better and puts things into prespective for me . I should be happr regardless. God loves everyone right.
thank you all soooo much. It really helps
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reader, anonymous, writes (6 April 2008): I know this is a hot potato for a subject, but I do recall reading in the bible "frowning" on same sex pleasures. That was the old testiment, the new testiment it seems to me portrayed a new society that people would have to learn to accept many things that weren't tolerated before. Sin seems to come from certain religions, but not all.
We are human beings, and under certain conditions, we to could accept at least a temporary acceptance. Were humans, we have needs.
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reader, anonymous, writes (6 April 2008): Of course its not a sin. I don't know if it says it or not in the bible, I've never read the bible. But so what if it says it in the bible? What makes you think the bible is so significant so as to let it dictate your life?
Of all possible things to worry about, the bible is the last thing you should worry about. I'm sure the bible says alot of things.
You should be a little more scientific and critical before accepting just any belief that comes your way.
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reader, anonymous, writes (6 April 2008): It's not a sin to be gay! Certainly not, if god loves each and everyone of us equally then he will love gay people too. Being yourself and being happy with your sexuality is definately NOT a sin, despite what some ridiculous extremists try to convince us. Be yourself and be proud of it! xxx
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reader, Yos +, writes (6 April 2008):
No it's not a sin to be gay.
There are several passages in the bible that homophobic people like to point at and call 'proof that being gay is a sin'. I suggest next time someone does that you look up those passages and read them. I've read them all carefully and I certainly didn't see any clear indication that this is true. Read it carefully... see what you think.
If someone doesn't like something, then they'll use whatever they can to criticize it. People use the bible for this, when the real message of the bible is to love and respect all other humans (including the gay ones).
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reader, anonymous, writes (6 April 2008): Do not think that just because there is a particular religion in your culture that it can claim to know what is actually right and wrong. There have been thousands of religions, with equally thousands of different contradicting beliefs and interpretations of what is right or wrong.
If someone you know wants to identify with one particular religion, and believe a certain thing, then that is there choice, their personal view, but that is all it is; a view. It is not an absolute truth that should then be imposed on everyone else.
When you hear things like "homosexuality is a sin" or "homosexuality is not natural" you are hearing statements that come from a pre-medieval culture, a dark era full of superstition and void of scientific discovery to explain the reason for how things work.
The homosexual issue specifically, you need to consider how this view became adopted and part of mainstream Christian thought. Thomas Aquinas was a key individual to shape Christian mortality, but remember that his views are almost 700 years old! Similarly, much of Freud's psychoanalysis is now in mainstream thought and to an extent this encourages a very black and white view of the world (known as a teleological perception - that everything in the world has an end purpose or goal) yet people forget that his belief that the ultimate goal of all sexual desire was for heterosexual penetrative sex came from an extremely conservative, restrictive and oppressive era - one that was reflecting the social perception of sex at its time.
So you need to consider, before labelling things as natural and unnatural, you need to define what something actually means to be natural or unnatural. Personally, I can't possibly believe that sex is meant only for reproduction. It's too simple, too black and white. Perhaps sex has many purposes. One being reproduction, but another being nothing more than pleasure.
Religions discourage intellect, thought and reason. They ask that you blindly accept one book, one word over everything else and that you should deny anything that contradicts it. If you subscribe to that, then unfortunately it doesn't look too good for gay people and it never will.
Rather I would say, you have an amazing capacity to learn and think for yourself. If you want to believe in superstition, of wrathful gods who destroy cities, who sit on clouds, who invade every thought you have and will ever have, waiting to judge you when you die and possibly cast you in to an eternal suffering hell, then that is up to you.
But never think that just because someone else may believe in any of that nonsense, that they are right. Make your own choices and come to your own decisions about what you think is right and wrong.
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reader, Laura1318 +, writes (6 April 2008):
If you are gay and you are happy about , so be it.
Can anyone be a gay?
Obviously if you are not one, you cannot be one.
If you think being a gay and it is sin,
then Jesus comes for the sinners .
For He came for the weak , the infirmed and the lowly
and not those whitewashed tombs who are cleaned on the outside but dirty inside.
God is merciful and loving for He does not want any soul to perish.
He forgives your sins , it does not mean that you do not have to pay for your crimes in this world.
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reader, anonymous, writes (6 April 2008): In the Bible it says it is a sin, but even though I am a christian myself, I don't look down on this kind of sexual orientation. I believe God wants you to be happy - even though mankind seems to have strayed from what it was intended. But yes, the Bible would class it as a sin.
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reader, zain +, writes (6 April 2008):
yeah i agree with that guy too
you should listen to him he seems to know what hes talking about
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reader, anonymous, writes (6 April 2008): of course its a sin to be gay...
but its just something the church made up...
its the church that made it a sin...
theyre just being hypocrites...
and popes rape little children its just a stupid rule
you shouldnt care about stuff like that just makes you follow more rules
you shoudnt let people force beliefs onto you
dont live by the bible
just be yourself and do what makes you happy
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reader, Laura1318 +, writes (6 April 2008):
If you believed it is a sin , then it is a sin.
If you don't , then don't believe what others say.
There are gay churches and gay pastors.
Let no one judge you and neither you be a judge.
According to God. all are sinners, whether you are a gay or not!!!!
God did not destroy Gomorrah and Sodom in the Bible because
they were gays but because they did not worship God.
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reader, anonymous, writes (6 April 2008): This is verified as being by the original poster of the questionI've heard that saying before .... it's kinda true I guess...
thanks it's helped
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reader, Shan14 +, writes (6 April 2008):
People have told me it's a sin and said it's in the Bible. I asked my mom this same question a few weeks ago and she said yes it is a sin and when I asked why she said because "God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve!" lol
My dad also told me that God destroyed a whole city because all the me there were gay. Even though im not gay, this made me upset because you can't help who you fall in love with and it shouldn't be a sin to love anyone in any type of way. I hope I helped!!!!!!
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