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I have a legit interest in Goth/Emo and am tired of the posers who do it just to fit in. Any opinions on Goth-emo?

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Question - (20 June 2011) 4 Answers - (Newest, 1 December 2012)
A female age 30-35, anonymous writes:

Around the age of 14 I gradually became gothic (almost 17 now). My way of think, the way I view things, and my interests changed and eventually I began to change my appearance. I am in love with ancient gothic art and architecture. I enjoy reading gothic literature. I'm always captivated by gothic film. I like listening to some gothic music. Also I started ordering gothic clothing from online stores in the UK. I think its ridiculous though when people associate goth with emo. It angers me to no end. Many people are stereotypical, judgmental idiots don't realize that gothic is so much more than just black. But I do admit it is quite enjoyable to give the so-called idiots a bit of a scare. I couldn't care less if someone refers to me as that 'weird goth chick.' But as I mentioned it drives me batty when people assume goth and emo are similar styles. Gothic style is influenced by the Renaissance or medieval period as well as the Victorian era, with a dark twist. Emo style is like comical art, with a dark twist (like alice in wonderland in black and other dark colors). I'm sorry I'm not really sure how to explain emo style in words. Anyways there are few REAL goths out there and I can't stand being surrounded by posers who have this false idea of gothic people and think that they can just become goth overnight. For me it was a gradual thing even though my mother doesn't thinks so. When I confessed to her about my new lifestyle, she assumed it just happened all of a sudden and basically laughed in my face. It shouldn't have surprised me because she never really paid any attention to me. She's overbearing and judgmental. She still jokes about it but I just let it slide seeing how there's no getting through to her. Anyways I apologize for this being long. Is anyone else bother by the false association of goth/emo? Or feels it's ludicrous how society views gothic people? Is anyone sick of seeing all of these posers who just want to fit in or are having an identity crisis etc.? I'm terested to hear other people's POVs.

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A female reader, anonymous, writes (1 December 2012):

The thing about 'sub cultures' is that they evolve. Life is change. I will say that there are sites where a lot of Goth/Emo/Punks congregate. More often than not they are 'united' by not being 'mainstream'. They all share a similar EFF the Establishment, EFF Normalcy, Challenge Monotony and so forth...

Basically think for yourself, know who you are, know your rights- Do NOT Conform.

Emo was indeed termed that due to people being fine and in touch with their EMOTIONS so will mainly write about that and their experiences. We are human and we are emotional beings. Thank Goodness!

Its the Stereotypes you may reject and have gotten caught up in. When you share a common Don't Be A Sheep attitude with your Fellow Human Sister or Brother and Dress not to the squeaky clean Beings that are considered 'sheep'- its THAT, that you should be avoiding. That I'm Better than others.

Most Goths/Emos/Punks I have associated with; they share more in common than what most people would assume.

In the end, the TRUE message of these subcultures is truly about acceptance and uniqueness. Embrace your fellow beings.

Drop the Poser mentality. We as Humans, have the tendancy to judge, label, and its fine, normal. It becomes a concern when you hide behind a label to stir up your anger and resentment to a disporportionate level where you are in violation of what a TRUE GOTH stands for. Its not about Hate and Elitism.

You should know this.

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A female reader, NightBlade United States +, writes (1 December 2012):

NightBlade agony auntYes it is absurd. Being a Goth, and someone obsessed with multiple subcultures, it is incredibly ignorant and incorrect to associate the two.

Goth started in the late 70's/ early 80's as a twist off of Post-punk. There is a better definition floating somewhere around, but I'm lazy. Goth is atmospheric, and focused on music. That music, despite mainstream's EXTRAORDINARILY false claim, does NOT include Marilyn Manson, Evanescence, H.I.M, Slipknot, or any other bands like that.

In reality, here is an example of some Goth Bands:

Bauhaus, Siouxsie and The Banshees, Christian Death (don't judge it by the name. I always feel awkward when giving out the name.), The Sisters Of Mercy, Cocteau Twins, Dead Can Dance, Cinema Strange, etc. LOTS of others, but listing them would take too long.

Emo started around the mid 80's, and in reality, the Emo subculture today is a COMPLETELY different subculture than when it first attempted to start.

It was "Emotionally driven punk rock". Yep. That's the truth of it. I personally thought it was a bit too whiny, but it's just not my taste in music.

The Smiths are said to have some influence in original Emo music, buuutt I actually like the Smiths so they would be an exception. Today Emo has become a subculture based off of a false rage and romanticism of teenage depression, with a bit of rebellion thrown in.

I am not TOO familiar with the Emo subculture, though, so it's not entirely my place to say.

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A male reader, Jmtmj Australia +, writes (21 June 2011):

Jmtmj agony auntWasn't there a south park episode on the whole goth-emo-vampire comparison?

Watch it, you'll get a laugh out of it if nothing else.

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A female reader, Jac2b55 Australia +, writes (21 June 2011):

Jac2b55 agony auntHi there..

Part of growing up, especially at your age, is about discovering who you are and finding a place where you 'fit'. I think that rather than be judgemental of those who you believe are not 'real' goths, how about you as someone you perceive as a 'real' gothic introduce them and teach them about the lifestyle.

I know people who at your age lived a completly 'gothic lifestyle' and now wear business suits .. My point is people change and go through different identities on their journey to adulthood. You may continue to live this lifestyle, where others may experiment with it and move on.

I suggest that rather than focus on how others perceive your lifestyle, only worry about yourself and how you feel...

If it makes you happy and your not hurting anyone then go for it!

From what you have said people are being judgemental of your lifestyle and you dont like it, perhaps you could lead by example and stop judging others on how they view things differently to yourself.

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