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writes:I need help on a career decision.. Sounds bad right?Well I have been working for a car dealership for about 5 months now. They were looking for young people with little to no car sales experience. I had a lot of experience selling other products in the past, just no experience in cars.Well, for the first few days I was shadowing the salesman, but when their BD Agent quit, my manager asked me to fill in for 1 month and learn the CRM system. He said he would hire someone new to do it after 1 month and put me on the sales floor. So I agreed and after 1 month I learned the system.When I started to ask about becoming a salesman, my manager constantly put me off. Whenever I had a chance to work a deal, take a sale call, anything that had to do with sales, my manager would pull me to the side and tell me to pass it to another salesman and get back to my desk. I set up times with my manager to get training in sales, he blew me off every time.Well after 3 months, my manager hired a new girl, 6 years older than me with no prior sales experience whatsoever. I'm think she is going to be a BD Agent, because that is what we talked about. Nope. He made salesman on her first day and she's done well. One day my manager pulled me aside to talk and basically told me that he didn't care if the salesman jacked around all day, but that I had to always be in my desk, never get up to do anything except go to the rest room and I could never be on my phone. I was honestly ok with this, but he then went on and on about how he didn't care if his sales people were lazy workers. I was surprised but I said okay.The next day my General Manager came in and ripped my sales manager apart for being lazy and letting the salesman be lazy. Shocker. Yet nothing changed, the salesman are still lazy.I started to realize that I had been a BD agent for too long. I went to my sales manager and just let him know how I was feeling. He basically told me that he knew who was going to make it and who was going to choke. He said I would choke. I was appalled. He said I didn't have experience selling cars. When he said that, I asked about the new people who had no experience at all and he just let them do sales, never trained them, nothing. He tried to brush it off and said he really didnt have to teach them anything like he has to do with me. Which is a lie by the way because I too was never trained nor taught anything.There were times I actually sold cars and finished deals on my own and just put it in another salesman name because my manager made me. Whenever a customer would call and wanted to work with my, my manager refused. I feel completely sabotaged.Anyways, my manager is not going to put me in sales. But they don't want to see me go. I've been offered a sales job at 3 other dealerships along with other perks and of course hardships. My dilemma is that I really like it here, and I hate starting over. But I don't think im being treated fair. And I know in the car business its reckless.. trust me, I know. My question is, should I stay here and try to "prove myself", or should I just accept a new job and be put in the position I deserve.
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reader, anonymous, writes (13 September 2016): This is verified as being by the original poster of the questionHey guys. So I came into work today and my General Manager told me he did not and would not let me leave. He says he is going to figure something out and s working on getting me compensated on appointments and people I work that end up buying. I wont make as much as the salesman but it could be up to 2k extra a month. It made me feel better to know my GM appreciated me, however im still unsure. Now that I have these other offers, im wondering. I think maybe staying for a little while longer would look better than leaving already so other dealerships dont think I choked. Dealerships wont be hiring again until the beginning of the year if I pass this up and wait... I think if I start demanding compensation and recognition for the deals im doing, they will take me more seriously. My GM supports me way more than my Sales Manager.All advice helpful. Going to sleep on it tonight.
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reader, aunt honesty  +, writes (13 September 2016):
 I think I would jump ship and try out somewhere new who appreciated me.
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reader, CindyCares  +, writes (13 September 2016):
 Although WiseOwlE 's reasoning is absolutely sound and correct and the best course of action in theory... in practice I wonder if you'd have in 3 months or 6 months , the same opportunities which you are being offered right now. Life is NOW, and if we get a lucky break we should grab it by the scruff of its neck before it passes on. So, since I have zero knowledge about the job market in your field, it's up to you to evaluate your chances of being offered similar or better positions in the next future , and if you can afford staying where you are to hone your computer skills.
If you want to do sales, though, it seems obvious that , today or in 3 months or in 6 months etc.... you will have to leave. They told you, and showed you, they won't let you do sales ; you are stuck in a dead end, or at least in a place where you won't do what you would like to be doing, so , sooner or later , you'll have to break free.
Personally the fact that they use me to conclude deals and then the merit ( and the commission ) go to another person- would make my blood boil, and I simply could not stay - but I am not saying mine would be the most convenient , effective course of action. So if you can be more patient and coolminded, good for you, stay a little more and gain some experience,... always with an eye on the way out, though.
Your dislike of starting over... is not a valid concern, IMO.
You would not make a good Buddhist, lol.
Life is impermanence itself, it's all about change and transformation. Nothing stays the same and we just have to deal with it, embrace it in fact.
Even the most apparently uneventful, monotonous existence is made of constant changes, if you think about it : people who die on you, and then people who are born. Old friends go, new friends come, ...relationships fail and new love is found... jobs, places, homes, habits, interests, your body itself change in time- and resisting this process is useless and painful. Enjoy it instead : every end is just a new beginning . The part of you which
" dies " when you have to leave a job or a place or a relationship, is the part,though, which is free to start a new exciting trip; it's up to you to also make it a beautiful trip....
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reader, llifton +, writes (13 September 2016):
 I would put in my notice and leave. Sounds like you are very under-appreciated and like they don't have any intentions of letting you prove yourself. If you are being offered other sales positions at other lications, I would immediately jump on that. I wouldn't want to work where I wasn't appreciated.
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reader, anonymous, writes (12 September 2016): It sounds like your manager thinks you aren't the right personality type for sales...so if he thinks so, then go to your new job! If he feels this way I don't think he'll change his mind.
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reader, anonymous, writes (12 September 2016): You know what you have to deal with the job you already have. If you still have the same sales manager, he has made up his mind where he feels you should be. It is only because you challenged him, that he has been obstinate; and has refused to allow you to get car-sales training.
Give it a another three months to accumulate some time-in on the job. That way, it doesn't look like you "choked" after only three months. You've toughed it out this long; which means you're one helluva kid. After the three additional months and nothing has changed, go for the other offers. In the meantime, you are salaried; and not depending on commissions. Other perks may come as you have spent more time on the job.
It's best to get reasonable time-in on a new job to show you can be reliable; even under difficult circumstances. Even when you're not doing what you expected to do. The extra experience on the CRM system will come in handy, and now you've been offered the opportunity to do sales elsewhere. Keep the training you did receive under your belt. Use it, perfect it, and then take it somewhere else if you have to.
He utilized your computer-skills, because you have the youthful computer saavy they needed. The others were too lazy or stupid to learn it. Your talents in every capacity will prove beneficial to you in the long run.
Never pass-up an opportunity to learn how to use a new system. It gives you an edge over the others, who only know how to do one thing. Always diversify your training and broaden your skills. It looks good on your resume. That's how you gain the knowledge and experience to manage or supervise. By having the extra training and skills others don't have. Take some night-courses to earn an Associate's
degree, or a bachelor's. Push yourself as far as you can go.
You say you like it there; then stick it out. You'll only gain respect, experience, and eventually the manager will be canned. If he got chewed-out and nothing has changed. Trust me, if the General Manager's authority is ignored; there will be hell to pay. He may already be looking for the sales manager's replacement.
In the meantime; if you get the time, watch and learn from the sales staff. If they're lazy, they won't meet quotas. If they don't meet their sales quotas, the dealership fails and will not get the highly coveted bonuses and industry sales awards offered by the car manufacturers for outstanding performance. That will eventually leave openings in sales.
If there are still a lot of unsold vehicles on the lot by the end of the year. The dealership-owner(s) will have to pay big-time taxes on unsold inventory. That just might play into your hands. They'll need to move those cars.
Good luck, sweetheart!
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reader, N91  +, writes (12 September 2016):
 I'd definitely look elsewhere if I were you, sounds like an absolute dead end.
Get another concrete offer first then hand your notice in.
Good luck
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reader, Honeypie +, writes (12 September 2016):
 You have to decide what you WANT to do.
Do you want to do sales or do you want to be in a job you didn't CHOOSE to take, but took to be helpful and learn something?
Why do you think the guy before you quit? Was he/she supposed to do sales and quit when not allowed?
I would look for a new job in a better work environment. It sounds like cluster-f... of a place to work.
Forgot to add.... Don't quit till you have your new job. Learn as much as you can in the meantime.
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reader, Honeypie +, writes (12 September 2016):
You have to decide what you WANT to do.
Do you want to do sales or do you want to be in a job you didn't CHOOSE to take, but took to be helpful and learn something?
Why do you think the guy before you quit? Was he/she supposed to do sales and quit when not allowed?
I would look for a new job in a better work environment. It sounds like cluster-f... place to work.
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