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reader, YummyMummy  +, writes (21 July 2007):
 I am a believer in life begins at conception so I don't believe in abortions unless the female was raped or has an illness like cancer. Also if the child will have no quality of life at all then I would see an abortion in that case as ok.
But then again it isn't up to me to judge what others do :)
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reader, willywombat +, writes (20 December 2006):
 Stina....no!! Not you as well!!
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reader, bonym +, writes (20 December 2006):
 Its a matter of personal opinion. Everyone has theor own view on what is right and wrong. I personally do not believe that I have the choice to decide whether I can end a life, buts thats ME. Its not for me to say what is right and wrong for anyone else, I have my own view on this and its MY view and how I live my life and what I would do in that situation.
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reader, anonymous, writes (20 December 2006): Hahaha... 83
And yes, I am obsessed with sushi. Especially stuffed toys that resemble sushi with cute happy faces. Yum!
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reader, stina  +, writes (20 December 2006):
 Yeah, since this is a help site, there's no real problem here. Since it's more of a discussion, you should post on the forums or else go to pro-choice and pro-life websites to see their arguments. That's the reason I answered the way I did at the bottom - because I thought you'd be asking for help on an advice site...
I agree with willywombat, martini is obsessed w/ sushi -- as much as i am! i'm going to all you can eat sushi this weekend! lol although onigiri is much more cute (and therefore fun) to eat...nori faces = fantastic. okay. i'm done now. ;P
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reader, willywombat +, writes (20 December 2006):
Martini, you are obsessed with Sushi!!
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reader, anonymous, writes (20 December 2006): Well for some reason, I think the forum link should be more prominent. So people who want to discuss/debate on something should post there. Then again, many people like the entourage of anti-martini's like to keep themselves anon, in case through extreme pettiness, I or anyone else decide to spam their in-boxes with 'hate'-mail. YEAH like that will be the day! 8P
I seem to have a more difficult time to taking most anons seriously when they start debates with anyone. Then again, I can understand "for their safety" issues.
Oh well...
BTW, off topic, anyone been to all you can eat sushi? We have tons of places here on the west coast (Canada) - $13/person from 9pm to midnight. 8]
OH YES, abortion... Ah whatever. It's like the debate of porn, beauty, religion, guns, and 17 year olds getting sentenced to 10 years in prison for giving oral to his 15 year old gf... Yeah, never ending. 8[
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reader, willywombat +, writes (20 December 2006):
What is the difference between a clump of cells and a fetus? The ability to live and breathe for themselves. Now, please this will all at some point get out of hand. This topic is a personal one that each individual makes under (many times) extreme stress. Please can this be discussed elsewhere, afetr all this is dear cupid, not question time. Dr Pete was right, it isn't the place really.
Sorry.
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reader, anonymous, writes (19 December 2006):
Lets suppose that my ageing rich 90 yo grandmother's continued existance is a problem for me. I have to care for her, I have to worry about something happening to her and I wouldnt feel right giving her to someone else to watch. And lets face it she is really rich, I'd inherit and I need the money. All in all it would be very convienient for me if she died.
Would it be ok for me to kill her?
Would you judge me? Is it my personal choice, and neither right or wrong? What if I take the decision seriously and decide to kill her anyway? What about her makes her something more than a 91yo fetus/blood clot?
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reader, anonymous, writes (19 December 2006): This is verified as being by the original poster of the questionu think england is bad try coming to the south wales valleys. although i think young mothers get more help than in england x x x
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reader, anonymous, writes (19 December 2006): SB There is at least one other person who lives in Crawley who has used this board! I do know what you mean, I actually moved away from Crawley for about 4 years because it all bothered me so much. I agree with the culture you mentioned, Crawley is the worst town in the UK and England is the worst country in Europe. The government needs to do more really.
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reader, Sexybum +, writes (19 December 2006):
 NB:
If there does happen to be any young mothers in Crawley from here then I do not mean to cause any offence to you.... I am just trying to explain how 'deep' a situation can get... I'm not suggesting that everyone is this stereotype... I am expressing the extreme of unwanted pregnancy.
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reader, Sexybum +, writes (19 December 2006):
Hiya
Yeah I agree some people make the decision too lightly and some people really do need to responsibility for they're actions, but can a 12 year old really bring up a child... I would prefer if I had a daughter at 12 get pregnant for her to have an abortion rather than a child.
I think it is each to there own.... It is not up to anyone to judge anybody who may or may not have an abortion but up to the person who is amking the decision to judge themselves and live with their decision themselves.... either way.
Hey Dr Pete! Well... I say... You live in the same town as me.. what a coincidence! hehehe That is interesting!! So.. you know what I mean about the 'seeing youngsters everywhere!?'
I wonder if there is anyone else from Crawley in here!
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reader, anonymous, writes (19 December 2006): This is verified as being by the original poster of the questioni don't give a yes no answer to this question. i believe it is a persons personal choice. however, i think SOME people make the decision too lightly and use it as an easy way out. it has huge emotional and sometimes physical consequences that a child of 12 (sexy bum) jus cudn deal with! x x x
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reader, anonymous, writes (19 December 2006): Sexybum, I live in Crawley too! :)
And of course, I agree with everything you've said.
Anyone who gives a yes / no answer to the abortion question like that has obviously never actually been in the situation before.
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reader, Sexybum +, writes (19 December 2006):
I agree with Dr Pete, this isn't the place to discuss this... but seeing a syour are discussing it I would liek to add something.
For those of you who say abortion is wrong and if you get pregnant you should have the child and bring it up or give it up for adoption...... don't you think there are enough children out there just waiting for someone to adopt them and accept them. Those children prob. feel umwanted and when they find out they are adopted they go througfh the anguish of trying to think what there 'real' parents must think of them.
If you don't use contreception and get pregnant you have the responsibility to have the child and bring it up...... ha.... I come from Crawley in South East England.... If you've ever heard of it then you know what it's famous for.... Teenage mums.
We have the youngest mums in the world here... having a bump whilst you sit your sats is 'fasionable' where I come from.... These young naive, negleted and drug addict children all beleive they are grown up and capable to live life without the help of anyone else. When they get pregant it is because it was cool... or because they were so drunk they don't even remember having sex! When a 12 year old kid is pregnant do you really think abortion is such a bad idea...
I walk around everyday and see youngters pushing prams... the majority of them they're youngsters will also be pushing prams like a never ending cucle all because people are too opinionated about what is right or wrong. I know several girls who if they could've they would've had an abortion... Now there children don't get treated that great.
Look... to put it simple everyone learns from experience.... peoples lives change all the time and with it there views... So don't be quick to judge... Stop seeing life from your own eyes and take a good look around. So many people do things because they can't see any other way out. and maybe in soem circumstance an abortion is actually the most responsible and selfless thing to do.
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reader, anonymous, writes (19 December 2006): Abortion is a very personal choice and its neither a right or wrong one to make!!!
Its up to the peron involved to make that decision for themselves - no one else!!
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reader, anonymous, writes (19 December 2006): I don't think this is the place to discuss the moral issue of abortion, to be honest.
Perhaps the forums, or better yet, another website?
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reader, anonymous, writes (19 December 2006): I don't think its either right or wrong, it is what that individual chooses. In some cases it is silly to pretend that a child should be brought into the world, say if the girl is underage, mentally young, raped, etc. To choose to have either is a major decision and shouldn't be taken lightly. I feel for anyone who is faced with this very heart breaking decision.
Take care
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reader, anonymous, writes (19 December 2006): Having children is a big deal. If a person isn't ready to be a parent, another living, breathing human shouldn't be brought into the world. Maybe the person can't afford to raise the child, or they were a rape victim. Maybe the mother is still young and needs to finish school. No matter what the excuse, if someone is not ready to be a parent, they should not go through with it.
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reader, anonymous, writes (19 December 2006): Wrong.
And its not about facing consequences.
Lets start with the assumption that murder is wrong ie. depriving another person of their life absent self defense is wrong. Notice that the government does not make any stipulation how valuable the persons life is, how old they are, their health, income or intelligence. Every perosn has the same level of protection.
Ok, at some point obviously between the time a person is a zygot and the time they are a 5 year old they become a person and become elligible for protection. When do you become a 'person', no long a fetus or a clump of cells- really pretty arbitrary and confusing to tell when. Certianly its before your actual birth. And I dont think your personhood has to do with your brain development or the number of cell you have.
So if you dont *know* whether or not the baby has obtained personhood yet, it seems pretty arbitrary and negliant to kill it. It would be akin to firing a pistol out the window when you didnt know if there were passersby. If you dont know the consequences of your actions, you should take the most cautious actions.
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reader, anonymous, writes (19 December 2006): Totally agree with the poster who posted about it being a big blood clot. Let's face it. An embryo is technically a parasite (it fits every definition of the word). Sorry to have to tell it so bluntly but there it is. If the mother changes her mind during the pregnancy, why should she not be able to terminate it?
Murder is wrong cos it affects society. The only human being that is affected by an abortion is usually the mother, not the embryo as it doesn't have any human rights till week 24 so doesn't count till then. By then, abortion is illegal.
There you have some real arguments for abortion, no emotional crap involved
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reader, anonymous, writes (18 December 2006): i recently did a school project on abortion, and this is really a huge conflict of opinionsis a fetus a human?if abortion is illegal should there be exceptions for rape and incest?should a minor need parent or gaurdian permission to have an abortion?are the pills right or wrong? (RU-486 and the morning after pill)my opinion is that a fetus is a human but is not a person yet. i do feel that a woman should get an abortion sooner then later. because at around 7-8 weeks a fetus begins to feel some pain and around 20 weeks a fetus can feel pain and between 20-30 weeks a fetus can feel more pain the an adult human. so late abortions are just wrong, except for medical reasons. I strongly feel that no matter what their should be exceptions for rape and incest!! it is just wrong to make a woman carry the baby of her rapest! For parent permission i feel that if a minor is totaly confident in her choice, she is getting it done for the right reasons, and no one is forcing her to do this, then i think that it should be legal for a minor to get a seceret abortion (legal by doctors). for the pills i really dont know i think the morning after pill is good, but i dont know enough about the RU-486Think about this, if abortion is illegal then more and more women would have to resort to dangorus back ally abortions, which are unsafe, unclean and are just over all bad, and many women die from blood loss or other serious complications.i think that every woman should have her own CHOICE whether or not to get one. not the governments!
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reader, anonymous, writes (18 December 2006): They are not killing an unborn child. It's not a child at a few weeks, for goodness sake, just a big blood clot. Stop dramatising and romanticising the issue - it's difficult and sensitive enough and this sort of language doesn't help. You don't have a 'problem' and aren't seeking advice so stop trolling and go do something useful with yourself.
And FYI since you say abortion is wrong, I hope are you fully involved supporting local kids and young/single mothers. The issue isn't about the embryo, it's about the next 16 years. That's the hard part. People go on about this "baby" crap, totally missing the point.
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reader, anonymous, writes (18 December 2006): This is verified as being by the original poster of the questionyou all have some really good opinions. i would say that if u r pregnant because you haven't used contraception then u shud face the consequences of your actions. however if you have been raped i believe that is acdeptable. i think people get an abortion too easily and don't think about the consequences. they r killing an unborn child!!
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reader, fuse +, writes (18 December 2006):
I personally believe it is wrong. The reason being I believe it is murdering someone. If you have read a baby journey book or caught that show in the womb. On the National Geographic Channel, the process of a fetus becoming an a actual baby its amazing. The identations of features appears sooner than people will like to believe or accept. they might not be functional but they are there. Or should I say the ground work is being laid out for things to begin to happen. example like the pores in our head had to develope before our hair can grow out that pore. Just because the baby does not have a head of flowing hair does not mean the process has not begun.
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reader, anonymous, writes (18 December 2006): I am not against it, but some people are. The choice is yours to make without interference from anyone. Think about the baby and yourself, are you capible of taking care of a child, do you want to have a baby at this point in your life? All though people are against it, when they are faced with the situation themselves you will notice alot of them questioning their own beliefs. Do what is best for you and that child. there is no right or wrong answer.
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reader, anonymous, writes (18 December 2006): I personally think abortion isn't the best thing to do but everyone is different. If I were to get raped and get pregnant, I would get one. For me it totally depends on the situation.
If you don't want to get pregnant, use protection. If you think it might have failed, take the morning after pill. If you do neither, I think you should take responsibility and look afte the child. If this REALLY isn't an option, then there's always adoption.
This is what I've been brought up to believe.
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reader, anonymous, writes (18 December 2006): This is verified as being by the original poster of the questionno it is not a problem that i am facing. i am just interested in other peoples opinion on the subject x x x
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reader, stina +, writes (18 December 2006):
Anon,
Why does it matter what anyone else thinks? If you're facing this question in life - all that matters is what you and your partner think. If you can't come to a conclusion, then you two should probably be talking to a professional about how to come to the decision.
Take care.
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