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writes: My husband and I have been married for 4 1/2 years. We have had some rough patches in our relationship...it actually started when we had only been together for about 6 months. He started to get really possessive and jealous about stupid things. He couldn't let go of my past. Which I couldn't understand at all...it was my past...and it really wasn't that bad. Before I was with him I always had at least 3 boyfriends...I wasn't sleeping with any of them, I was just getting different emotional needs met by each guy. It's hard to find one that can meet them all. I don't feel bad for it, because it was in my past. I have never cheated on my husband, not while we were dating and there has never been an affair. We split up a little over a year and a half ago, and decided to give it another go almost a year ago. Things have been rocky and just when I seem that things are getting better, I'm slapped in the face(not literally) with his attitude. My husband is a VERY moody guy. He throws little fits when things don't go his way. If he misplaces things he stomps around, waking up everyone in the house claiming that all of his stuff is always disappearing. He just can't understand why it always goes missing, and it's just his stuff...maybe it's because he forgets where he puts it...I've tried to tell him that...that just ends up being a fight so I usually just look around and retrace his footsteps for him until I find whatever it was that grew little legs and ran away. He throws the worst fits when he is driving. I can understand a little road rage, I have it myself...but to get seriously pissed off because some guy is going 5 miles under the speed limit is stupid. I can't handle all the negativity. I love this man, I do, and I want to make things work with him, regardless of the negative. I want him to learn to be more positive. I want him to treat me better...that is a totally different story. He is always cutting me down. I went and got my hair cut yesterday, I didn't ask him if I could and that was a problem. "You always just do what you want to do, regardless of what I think, you don't want to ask me" I don't think I should have to ask him if I can go get my hair cut. It's $30 and we have the money. He doesn't ask me when he goes and spends money, nor do I expect him to...if it's a little purchase under $50 I don't care...couldn't care less...he has a job so why shouldn't he get to spend some of his hard earned cash(I just want the same respect in return). He has this weird demented version of who I am in his head. He thinks that I do everything my way because I don't want to do it his way and I am doing it out of spite. Honestly, I'm almost 25 and have made it this far in my life without him telling me what time I should go to the bank(this is one of our biggest fights, I go to the bank at the end of my lunch hour. I don't want to go at the beginning because I am hungry and can just hit it on my way back...it's just as easy. But if I don't do it at the beginning he throws a fit and says I went after lunch because he wanted me to go before...it's the most stupid thing I have ever heard). I am not really a spiteful person. Everyone has it in them I guess, and I can be about certain things, but he thinks I do everything out of spite. I do everything differently than how he wants it done because I just don't want to do it his way...this isn't true. I do things my way because I am the one that is doing them and I honestly don't think it's that big of a deal when I do it or how I do it, just as long as it gets done. He has a really negative outlook at life and I am a bubbly happy person most of the time. I find that I am really only negative when I am around him or when he completely ruins my day by yelling at me over something stupid on the phone while I am on my way to work. I work in car sales...I do not wear my wedding ring to work(this was HIS idea, not mine) because you do sell more cars if you appear to be single. It's true. Men are more receptive to an attractive woman if they think they can get into her pants. I do not act inappropriately with any of my customers and none of them come back in just to talk after the deal is finished. Before work this morning I went into the place I used to work and ran into some oilfield truck drivers that used to be my regular customers there...they even have their own nick name for me...they are like in their 50's some are even older. I was telling him that I was running a little late because I was talking to them about coming in to look at a vehicle...he quickly got off the phone all pissy like without his normal "I love you". Then calls me back all pissed off because I am late to work because I am talking to "your oilfield trash". I was promoting MY business. I was working. When I told him that it was the 50 year old men he was like oh well, "if it would have been the other ones than I would have been like well FUCK you and I don't want to talk to you". Was that really called for? Should he have really said that to me? And then he started yelling at me because I called him on it and said he shouldn't talk to me that way. So I hung up the phone. I am not going to be disrespected anymore than I already am and I am not going to listen to someone yell at me. When he called back I asked him if he was going to continue to yell at me and he yelled some more "Yea, I am going to yell" so I hung up again. I am not doing it with him. He says that it is wrong to hang up on him and it shouldn't be allowed to do it...but in my defense should he be allowed to yell at me? I know that it happens. I am guilty of yelling occasionally(and I mean occasionally, I yell when I have been yelled at). I grew up in a home with constant yelling and he knows this...it has damaged me to no end...if someone yells at me the first thing I normally do is burst into tears. He knows this and still continues to yell. We had it out a couple of weeks ago and I told him I was tired of being his emotional punching bag for when things don't go his way. I am tired of him always taking his irritation out on me...I am a good woman and a good wife. I do everything for him. We live in the same town as his parents...they say they love me, but they don't. They went out of town for 2 whole weeks and we got along very well...but as soon as they comes home he starts up again. I don't get it. There have been numerous occasions when I have walked in on a conversation that he is having with his mother and it stops. Last night I walked into "it's like a slap in the face" the conversation stopped right there, my husband then said well, ok, goodnight we will see you tomorrow...then continues to tell me that the conversation had nothing to do with me, but he doesn't want to talk about it...and his attitude for the rest of the night is shit. And I wake up this morning to more attitude. I feel like he really doesn't want me around anymore. I have asked him, I told him I will leave, all he has to do is say so. He says it's not me, it's him, and not to be so sensitive...but it is hard to not be so sensitive when I am made to feel like I am always fucking up, and I have no idea what I've even done...I just know that obviously he isn't happy with me or he would treat me differently. We don't have sex regularly...well that's not true...we are on a regular schedule of sex of about 1-2 times a MONTH. Not because I don't want it, believe me, I am a nympho. I would love to have it on an average of 3 times a day. I am a very attractive woman with a good body. I have a wonderful personality and the most beautiful sweetness you have ever seen, but it's just not good enough for him. I take good care of myself and I try to be kind to everyone. I don't know what his deal is but if I can't figure out how to make him see that he is pushing me away by being such a jerk I will leave. I am prepared to do it again...I don't want to, which is why I am on this site looking for some insight or maybe some suggestions of ways I can talk to him. Please...anyone, everyone, men, woman, whatever help me...I'm losing it and he's losing me...
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reader, gettingmarriedsoon +, writes (23 March 2009):
How are you doing dear??
I'm on a definative path to recovery.... I'm lucky to have someone like my wife...I keep falling back too.. but she loves me so much.. I'm committed to be a positive happy person.
Look forward to hearing from you... an update. Thanks
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reader, gettingmarriedsoon +, writes (23 January 2009):
Hi Dear,Hope you are doin okay...I don't expect you to come here often to check this page, but once you do I will be able to get an update from you.Here is another thing I came across yesterday, thought I must share with you. I thnk you will be better able to empathise with your husband after reading this... (which I really think you already do...else you wouldn't have stayed with him).If you could get him to read this manual it would help him realise what he is doing to himself and you.Here is the linkhttp://www.ascasupport.org/_downloads/survivor_to_thriver.pdfI really hope one moment brings about a change...the crisis that happened with me...which brought me to the brink (even I don't know what it was really)...but there was a trigger.I can share one more thing with you..which is slightly discouraging.....I've now come to understand that it could take from 1 year to a few years to heal...and stabilise.Infact some sources have said, the mere acceptance of having been abused could take 1-3 years. I have fortunately (nearly) crossed that stage. I do question it sometimes, but reading about it through online sources has helped. I think I believe I was abused...and that leaves me with only one more crucial stage to cross... an affirmation that the past does not affect me and I will come over it.I have gone through all the motions which are mentioned in this manual. Right now, I'm able to see myself doing it..whch i think is a very difficult thing.I don't know what advice to give you... but I could share information about my own progress with you ...and I'm doing just that.
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reader, anonymous, writes (22 January 2009): He's obviously very controlling and emotionally abusive. You are smart, pretty, and have a great personality. Go out and take care of yourself! You don't need a guy like that. Life is tooo short. There are so many fish in the sea. Just try not to attract another emotionally abusive guy (that might be something you need to work out due to your upbringing maybe). Good luck......
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reader, richie_rap911 +, writes (21 January 2009):
Young Lady,
its hard to know what going know with your husband, not easy to say, everyone has some problem and some dont. it used the word "like or dislike" for anything. am 29 single i have 2 married women fallen in love with me but both have 2 children married early too and they have the problem like you too. both of them were my ex-girl they are planing for a divorce. they told me eveything why did they got married early and why did they left me and got married to someone. cause they were deeply in love with they husband before married but not knowing anything about they husband before marriage. they got the wrong husband.thats bad luck for them but yes its sad to hear that.some women dont realise the future what's going to happen next now am far away from both the women and i dont want to get married cause i know some problem will creat and there will be a lot pain whihc i cant bear it anymore.well i know you love him so much but there is one things i suggest you is to control it. be smart find out what going on get some information. once you get to know why your husband is doing this to you. if this goes on and on for a long time till you dont get an answer or if you cant find out whats going wrong wiht your husband. then you decide what you want to do. if i would have been in your side i would say i will divorce and be single forever and enjoy my life and stay away from pain. and one more thing stop being emotional. the more emotional you show to your husband the more the problem he will create. your just 25 still lots to learn more. lady lots to learn. you still have a long life to go on. let me know if you think am right or wrong. this is my experience ive known it many time not only from my ex- girl but from other too. hope you reply if you need to find out more.
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reader, gettingmarriedsoon +, writes (9 January 2009):
Hello dear,
Let me answer your question first, I was not recommended therapy by anyone. But I remmeber she once mentioned it in passing refering to pre-marital counselling.
It was mainly her patience with me and the fact that I felt extremely comfortable with her. I would say the worst things possible to her and she would bring me around to talk to her...after talking to her and listening to what she was thinking I would start feeling fine and very good about the relationship. I went through these swings several times and noticed her undying patience and understanding.
This was the main reason that sent me into thiking mode, this is when I looked around and saw that none of my other relations (home / office) were working out. I realised by this point that something was not ok and I was the common factor.
This is when I spoke to a psychiatrist. He asked me what do i think could be the root of the problem and I mentioned in passing several failed relationhips (actually non starters) and an incident in childhood.
He referred me to a clinical psychologist, it's been a journey since then. She is even younger than me, but is the best guide I've met so far.
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reader, doesntunderstand +, writes (6 January 2009):
doesntunderstand is verified as being by the original poster of the questionGettingmarriedsoon: I'm glad you had a good week and a fun New Years. Was the counseling something you came up with or did someone recommend that you go? I've been trying to get my husband into therapy and couple's counseling for years, and he won't budge. I think it's the preconceived notion that they are going to judge him and tell him how to live his life. He sees it as a negative, not a positive. I've told him several times that it isn't like that at all...my therapist and I have gone over some pretty rough stuff and I haven't ever felt like she judged me, or that she was telling me how to run my life and how to make my decisions. I love my sessions with my pdoc! I always feel so much better when I leave her office. I was skeptical about it at first, I really didn't want to go and blew it off for years. I didn't actually start going until I had a really bad mental breakdown...and decided to give it a whirl. He really needs to talk to someone non-judgemental about his issues...God knows, he won't talk to me about them.
I'm sorry you feel like a weak puppy inside. That's really sad. If you don't know where your relationship is going then why are you getting married? That should be where your relationship is going. Something I didn't really realize before I got married...it it FOREVER. That means that no matter how mad you get, whatever they do, you can't leave them. Marriage isn't something to take lightly...you can't rip it off like a band aid when it gets rough. When you are just dating or engaged it's a lot easier to end the relationship rather than 4-5 years down the road saying "I want a divorce". Divorce is ugly. My parents are both insane because of it...my brother and I are damaged because of it, and when I filed divorce papers last year it ripped my heart out. It was not how I thought I would feel when I did it. It was awful. I cried the entire time and replayed over and over the good times...in the end love won and the papers were never signed. It has left a huge hole in our relationship...bigger than the ones before. New trust issues to work through and what not. I'm not trying to nay-say or anything...I actually don't even know really why I'm telling you this, other than maybe you need to hear it before you walk down the isle. Anyways...
Thank you again for your advice. Have a great day!
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reader, gettingmarriedsoon +, writes (6 January 2009):
I don't want to make you sad / reduce your hope, but since I'm the guy going through this, I can tell you this is not easy.
I am undergoing psychotherapy and my doctor has strictly advices me to bring all "our" issues (between me and my fiance) to her session and try and resolve them there before I speak with her.
I too had a beautiful week, we were on the streets of the city till early morning on the new years day...and went party hopping all night long... but then I started falling back... for god knows what reason...I started discussing problems I was facing with my fiance and I have no idea where the reltionship is going.
It's not easy, it takes a lot of external support, I'm weak like a puppy inside.. and only I and my doc know that.
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reader, doesntunderstand +, writes (5 January 2009):
doesntunderstand is verified as being by the original poster of the questionGettingmarriedsoon: Thank you again for the advice. I will see if I can find a copy of that movie in this rinkydink town...We actually have had a great week! His parents have been out of town of course, so that helps. They return tomorrow and I am anxious that it is going to go back to the same ol same ol. I don't want to do it again. We've gotten along beautifully all week, and I know it's going to come to a screeching hault by Wednesday. ugh...just the thought of their return sends shivers. How bad is that? RCN: Thank you for your advice as well. You are totally right about the happy ending and that mine might not end with him. All the things from your last post I have thought about time and time again...it's nice to see that someone else is on the same wave length as me. Thanks again.
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reader, gettingmarriedsoon +, writes (30 December 2008):
Hello Dear,
I hope you are doing well.
I'm going to make a suggestion to you. I know a lot of people call it a cult, a theroy, another piece of "motivation literature" etc etc.. but there is something profound in the idea.
I suggest you to buy / borrow a movie called "THE SECRET" and watch it every day for the next week. Every second day in the week following that.
The idea is to get you started on the program with a firm belief and complete adherence.
I genuinely believe it will work for you. It worked for me every single time in my life and I think what you need the most at this point in your life is this secret to happiness.
A lot of positive wishes and prayers for you.
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reader, rcn +, writes (28 December 2008):
Now, get the whole ending your life thing out of your head. Doing that means you give up, which means someone other than you wins. As you said, your mom and brother would pay a terrible price for that decision. No man is ever worth making that choice.
Now, if you want the "happy ending" you have to come to realize, this person you're with may not be the one you're meant to have that happy ending with. Sometimes it's difficult to realize this, because change can be difficult. But let me ask you, if you could see in a crystal ball someone else you'd fall deeply in love with, who'd feel the same about you, and you had your happy ending, how long would you stick around, waiting for it to be with the guy you're with now?
I believe you deserve the happy ending. I also don't thing this guy you're with now is guaranteed to be the one you'll get the ending with.
Just remember, as long as you're willing to accept what you've been getting, you may be passing up what you really deserve.
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reader, doesntunderstand +, writes (28 December 2008):
doesntunderstand is verified as being by the original poster of the questionEmpathizer, I am glad that you are learning from my experience...at least someone is. I don't know that i am strong enough to leave...I want to believe that he will be what I him to be...even tho the hope of that is getting less and less. We talked a little tonight, I told him how close I am to ending it all, and he just got mad. It isnt a ploy to make him feel bad or anything, it's a serious concern of mine. I found myself with a gun barrel in my mouth the other day thinking what the fuck? Why should I be the one to end my life when he isn't the one that should be giving me what I need. I would never do it of course, for the sake of my mother any my little brother, they couldn't handle it. But why on earth would he get so mad at me for the way I am feeling? Please treat your soon to be wife like a princess...she certainly deserves it...like all woman I believe do. I wish my husband would see it, I would have a much happier ending.
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reader, rcn +, writes (26 December 2008):
Here's a true story for you. A husband and wife were having difficult times. He asked a friend why it wasn't working out. His friend said, "treat her as you would fine china, instead of Tupperware." He did just that. A few years ago he passed away. At the funeral his wife left a fine china tea cup on top of his coffin.
Just by making changes in treatment, and how you view your partner can make all the difference. The wife in this story loved the changes in her husband. The difference though between your situation and this situation was the husband sought out what he needed to to do to improve his marriage.
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reader, gettingmarriedsoon +, writes (26 December 2008):
to meet you. I blame her for the way that he is today. She blames herself as well. Although she still maintains that she did the right thing with not telling the guy she was pregnant, she realizes that she has raised 3 boys that have no empathy for anyone. She has told me that she is very disapointed in her boys and knows that it is her fault that they are all so angry and don't know how to treat their wives/girlfriends. She never taught them to cope and the only woman that they had in their life was a controlling mother with some major psych issues. They saw her with her first husband, he was horrible, as I'm told, and would beat her and talk to her in much of the same way that my husband talks to me. All 3 boys know well enough not to hit woman, at least it hasn't happened yet. They just have anger issues and have no idea what it is like to treat someone with total love and respect. They don't understand that if you treat your wife like a princess she will be so much more responsive. He says that I shouldn't expect to be treated as such, and maybe I shouldn't, but I do. I think he should treat me like I am gold, it's how he wants to be treated...
Recently he said something to me about "my brothers used to do that to me, and you aren't going to" I don't really remember what we were fighting about, but this sticks out. Do you think it's possible that he is this way partially because of the treatment of his brothers?
Hello Dear,
What was the story his mom gave him about his dad for the first 18 years. I think that would've had a profound impact on him.
Secondly, his mom's relationships and conduct, as also the conduct of her various husbands.
Thirdly, it could be an issue with his brothers. The way they trated him...(was he the youngest). The youngest are likely to take the brunt of it. There could be a sexual abuse case or not.
Talk to him again and try to understand what happened. ciao
I'm learning some important lessons from you
"They don't understand that if you treat your wife like a princess she will be so much more responsive. He says that I shouldn't expect to be treated as such, and maybe I shouldn't, but I do. I think he should treat me like I am gold, it's how he wants to be treated..."
I will remember this for my married life.
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reader, doesntunderstand +, writes (26 December 2008):
doesntunderstand is verified as being by the original poster of the questionEmpathizer,
His abandonment issues are a little different than most. He never had a dad around because his mom was a control freak and never told him that she was pregnant...he didn't even know he had a son until my husband was 18, she called him out of the blue and said your son wants to meet you. I blame her for the way that he is today. She blames herself as well. Although she still maintains that she did the right thing with not telling the guy she was pregnant, she realizes that she has raised 3 boys that have no empathy for anyone. She has told me that she is very disapointed in her boys and knows that it is her fault that they are all so angry and don't know how to treat their wives/girlfriends. She never taught them to cope and the only woman that they had in their life was a controlling mother with some major psych issues. They saw her with her first husband, he was horrible, as I'm told, and would beat her and talk to her in much of the same way that my husband talks to me. All 3 boys know well enough not to hit woman, at least it hasn't happened yet. They just have anger issues and have no idea what it is like to treat someone with total love and respect. They don't understand that if you treat your wife like a princess she will be so much more responsive. He says that I shouldn't expect to be treated as such, and maybe I shouldn't, but I do. I think he should treat me like I am gold, it's how he wants to be treated...
Recently he said something to me about "my brothers used to do that to me, and you aren't going to" I don't really remember what we were fighting about, but this sticks out. Do you think it's possible that he is this way partially because of the treatment of his brothers?
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reader, gettingmarriedsoon +, writes (26 December 2008):
I'm mixing up some thoughts here.. your husband has abandonment issues.. I was the one abused.
So his realisation would be, "it was not my fault that my father left", "I was abandoned and wronged"..and so on.
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reader, gettingmarriedsoon +, writes (25 December 2008):
Hi Dear,
This is the empathiser
A reaction like, "I've been a total ass" would not have pushed me to the brink at first.that is more like the final feeling.
I was actually struggeling with a lot of issue,like lack of depth in relationships etc, then she happened to me.
What really pushed my buttons was her patience with me, there'll be no crying, no insecurity...she was as if unaffected...
Then I could see a deep contrast, I was telling myself...she is indifferent. I would try to hurt her...but she would "never ever" hurt me back delibrately. Eventually I realised i was getting hurt on my own. This went on for a month or so...and I was pushed into counselling on my own.
I think this is a very lucky situation for both of us....and bad for the rest of my family..which I had bear with me (my behaviour) for a decade.
It may take a little longer in your case... I can't say if this will work for you...but what worked for her was her maturity..the contrast...the patience..not hurting me delibrately (giving me no justifications to cling onto)....and in your case you could mention councelling everytime you go through a "non-figting" phase.
Before you act on my advice, talk to your counceller...about how should you take it up. It will be a difficult task...but once done..this could turn him around rather quickly.
What he needs to realise, and accept vocally.. is this "it was not my fault"... before that comes the acceptance of "I was abused" and the realisation of the feelings he went through at that time. He could then relate them to his ongoing internal conflicts... it's a continnum.
Talk to your counceller about how you should go abt it... I know it is difficult.. but you and I know.. you are in love and so is he. And it's just one problem ...and once resolved..it could be great. We also know the problem is big, but if you set your mind to it...nothing is too difficult.
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reader, rcn +, writes (24 December 2008):
You can't force him into counseling. His willingness to seek counseling will tell you how interested he is in making this marriage work. Some people want, but aren't willing to do what it takes to have.
You can make the suggestion, but if he's not willing to, it may be time to move on. This is about you and being in a healthy, safe environment where you can be the best person you can be without fear of being judged for doing so.
You're not letting anyone down by leaving in order to be safe, and happy. You are letting yourself down when you stay in a situation when you deserve more.
If you choose to stay with him, in addition to counseling, I would recommend seeking a relationship coach, or behavior coach. They can assist you in developing a plan, and begin achieving relationship goals.
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reader, doesntunderstand +, writes (24 December 2008):
doesntunderstand is verified as being by the original poster of the questionTo the Empathizer: since you seem to be on the other side of a very similar situation, is there anything that your wife could have done or said to you to wake you up and make you realize Oh wow! I've been a complete and total ass!? Is there anything she could have done to make you be a better husband to her? To everyone else: the sex thing is really bothering me. I can't get past that we are only intimate an average of twice a month...he says it's depression, but it's been going on since about March...I can't help but think that there is someone else, he insists that there isn't and for some reason, I half way kind of believe him. But it's still nagging me...if he is doing it, he is doing a pretty good job, or I'm doing an even better job of looking past it...how do I catch him cheating if he is? Cell phone records are a waste of time because he isn't that stupid...not that I've checked them...he's offered for me to look at them...he calls a lot of contracters every day and I would be calling numbers for hours...to find nothing because even if he is calling a lady or a man(haha) they wouldn't tell me anyways
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reader, doesntunderstand +, writes (24 December 2008):
doesntunderstand is verified as being by the original poster of the questionRCN: you are absolutely right. Wow... I've never had it put to me quite like that. So how do I make him see it? This is the problem that I am having. I know that I have a messed up marriage and a very unhealthy relationship with my husband...my question is how do I bring to his attention what he is actually doing? I can't make him see it, leaving isn't going to make him see it...it obviously didn't work last time...there has got to be another answer than just packing my stuff and heading out the door. He is a good man, he just has no clue on how to deal with his issues and how to treat his wife...marriage counseling would be ideal, but how do I make him go? Any suggestions on how to talk to him would be wonderful and very appreciated...thank you!
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reader, rcn +, writes (24 December 2008):
"He might be a jerk, and he is definately controlling, but he is the only thing that's kept me rolling for the last few years..." Your justifying his behavior, and accepting it as "We are perfect for each other, he treats me like crap, and I let him."
Are you saying your idea of a good marriage is: "he will still yell and scream as I am crying. By this point he is usually yelling telling me to stop crying...stop being melodramatic...whatever."
Spend a few minutes and do a small exercise. Write a list, if we could waive a magic wand and design your marriage to be perfect for you, what would it look like?
Then take a pen and scratch out everything on your list that your marriage does not include now.
Tell us whether or not you still believe this is a situation that's good for you.
I believe, you deserve at least to feel loved, respected, cherished and protected. How does yours look?
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reader, gettingmarriedsoon +, writes (24 December 2008):
Hello Dear,
I'm the empathiser
I may be wrong, as I'm myself not completely healthy (mentally) at this point...I mean I'm undergoing therapy..for old buried problems.
But from my own insecurities I've come to understood this. I realised that in the past, I could not have a social life, I did not have healthy arguments with people (either avoid / get heated), didn't bond with anyone...not friends/not mother/not father/no one....I had problems.
There was always a desire to feel better, specailly when I knew for a fact that I was not growing as a person...I knew this just by looking at others..but there was no way I could emulate their behaviour.
The other phenomenon was someone very close to me...my dependence (as rightly pointed out by another writer) on that person increased tremendously. It was mom for a while, then a girlfriend, then my would-be-wife.
Put these two together and you have a situation, where if I feel there are things more important than me, for the person I love and depend on, it will bug me no end.
I'm not justifying his feelings, it's just the way it seems he could be. I was like that.
Please take caution, I'm not asking you to be weak, I'm asking you to be stronger. Seperate from him if you want, but support him like "fade" said. Ofcourse you don't deserve to take any abuse, those are his problems, probably there since he was a child....but he can overcome and it would then work beautifully for the two of you.
I wish you luck
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reader, doesntunderstand +, writes (23 December 2008):
doesntunderstand is verified as being by the original poster of the questionNothing real significant has happened, I am just at the point of making a really hard decision. He says that if I leave that's it. I left him once before and he can't go through it again. I have to make the decision to leave him knowing that there is a possiblity that our marriage will be over. I don't know if I am strong enough to do it again. It took everything I had last time, and I stayed in bed for a month...I'm really scared of losing the one person in my life that has been there. He might be a jerk, and he is definately controlling, but he is the only thing that's kept me rolling for the last few years...
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reader, doesntunderstand +, writes (23 December 2008):
doesntunderstand is verified as being by the original poster of the questionTo the man that empathises: I don't quite understand what you mean...by me not enjoying myself he will change? He knows that his behavior hurts me...he will still yell and scream as I am crying. By this point he is usually yelling telling me to stop crying...stop being melodramatic...whatever. I don't think he will, and I don't know if I can be patient for that long. I can't pretend that I don't enjoy life just to keep him happy. I honestly think that I should just move on to the next chapter in my life and let him live his however he wants to.
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reader, rcn +, writes (23 December 2008):
He's may not be working hard to keep you because of his love for you, it may be his dependence. You need to remember, many who are abusive, and have outburst do so as a means of control. This would also show why he's blaming you. There is not blame for you. You are not at all responsible for his behavior. He has a choice to decide his treatment to you. There is no excuse to treat you less than you choose to be treated.
Until he begins accepting responsibility that he owns his behavior, change will not happen. Until he realizes he's hurting you, he has no reason to change, and will continue ignoring the problem.
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reader, anonymous, writes (23 December 2008): Hi, This is the man who empathises with your husband.Whatever you do, whereever you live, don't let him feel you are having fun. I mean enjoy if you go out etc, but don't let him know that you are enjoying.Once you make a tough decision, that really affects him....He will be heartbroken, then he will try to find out, if you are equally sad... he will look for signs that you are not...and if he finds out you were sad...he will listen to you at that time..and will change. But if he finds out you care two hoots...he will be vindicated...untill he is sad again..which will not be long.I've been through this and can vocalise it...but I'm still not able to come through...I will...my therapist is helping me.
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reader, eyeswideopen +, writes (22 December 2008):
Move to that apartment, honey. I think that is your only hope of getting through to him. And be ready to hold out because he is going to promise you the moon, wait until you actually see some changes before you even consider getting back together. I think it is your only course of action. Keep us posted.
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reader, doesntunderstand +, writes (22 December 2008):
doesntunderstand is verified as being by the original poster of the questionTo the man that empathizes with my husband, thank you for your imput and I hope that you and your wife are able to work things out. I hope that you are able to get your anger under control. My husband will not go to counseling and thinks he is basically doing no wrong...he justifies his attitude problem and his outbursts on me. He says I "push him to that point". His outbursts are usually the worst when I am asking him a question that he doesn't want to answer. That apparently pushes his buttons. Then again, pretty much everything I do pushes his buttons. I've been putting up with him for so long, hoping for a change, and he promises day after day, month after month, that things will get better and I just need to work with him, and I need to have patience with him. I feel that I have been patient for most of the time we have been together. I know that he loves me, or he wouldn't fight so hard to keep me from leaving. My next question is how do I make him see that he is pushing me away and that he is going to lose me if he doesn't make a quick change? I'm already looking for an apartment...I have one foot out the door and the other is about to follow.
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reader, anonymous, writes (21 December 2008): Dear Poster
Stay in counseling, it will help you to be strong and to deal with the various issues easier. Most important it will help you to work on your self esteem and prevent him from breaking you down and doubting yourself. If your husband is not prepared to go for counseling and anger management, I am afraid there is not much hope that this marriage will survive.
No matter how much you love him, there are times when love alone is not enough. You should not stay in this marriage and accept and tolerate his abuse and lack of respect. It takes "two to tango" it takes to to make a relationship work. If he is not willing to go for counseling, it proofs his lack of respect and commitment to you and your marriage.
No matter how difficult this might be for you; you have to think longterm. Things will not change or get better without both of you being committed to work on it. If he is lacking the willingness, you alone cannot do it. You will only allow him to continue hurting you and destroy your chances of finding true happiness.
Please speak to your counselor about this and ask for some professional guidance in dealing with this. You need to think about yourself and your future.You deserve love, respect and happiness.
Best wishes and lots of smiles.
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reader, anonymous, writes (21 December 2008): Dear Poster,
I've been through your story and perhaps, I could relate to it. I say perhaps, because I'm on the other side of the story. I'm the insecure, needy guy with childhood abuse.
I have numerous traits that mirror your husbands behaviour. And I've never tried to understand them, all I did was to cover them up and bury them deeper and deeper in my conscience. Somewhere, I stopped feeling ... people's hurt when I yelled at them, my yelling was becoming my release mechanism, I could not feel that I hurt people unreasonably because of my own insecurities.
Infact... it's not in the past tense, it's happening right now.. I'm doing this to my wife to be right now...and imagine she could so easily break off this marriage...but she loves me and she is knows that I love her too...and she is holding on in my moments of weakness...(infact..this moment I don't know if she has decided to break it off...I haven't spoken to her in 24 hours).
But I'm undergoing therapy these days... I'm crying all day long...I am beginning to realise whatever defences I have built...walls I have created....and I think they are beginning to fall..and that is causing all this anguish.
The reason I'm writing to you right now is....I'm heart broken ...I love this girl and I know I will not be able to live without her...she is the reason I was pushed to therapy....and NOW if she leaves me I don't know what I will do.. and how I will ever forgive myself...there'll be no turning back. But I have issues...and I can't help myself so many times.....it is screwing my brain up 24/7
As a guy who can empathise with your partner...and also as someone who can try to understand your plight I would say...give him a chance...just take him to councelling...get him therapy...if ...and I don't know yet (but people like "us" get angry at / frustated at and hurt the people we love the most)....if he loves you...he will come around to understand and his love will find a more honest outlet.
Please try some more....he needs help and I think he loves you. I hope for the best for you and for him as well.
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reader, rcn +, writes (21 December 2008):
He says it's him not you. That's fine, but what isn't is how this poor behavior affects you. I agree with the poster who said NPD could be a factor. He has an abnormal level of control issues.
No one deserves to go through abuse. The question is, how long are you willing to put up with this behavior. Remember it's him not you, so he's the one who has to want change then seek it. You can't cause someone to change. I would say if this continues it's time to go. That's up to you, but don't sacrifice your happiness because of what someone else continues doing.
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reader, doesntunderstand +, writes (19 December 2008):
doesntunderstand is verified as being by the original poster of the questionTo Fade878: Thank you very much for your post. You hit the nail on the head with him needing to deal with his anger issues and his insecurities, and the sense of abandonment...wow. He didn't meet his real father til he was 18. His mom was a bit of a "wild woman" back in her day, he and his 2 siblings(both older) all have different dads. He refuses to go to therapy. I am already going. I have been going regularly for the last 2 months. I've tried to get him to go in and talk with my therapist but he doesn't want anyone telling him how he should feel or act...he has no clue. When we first got back together I told him that he needed to go to counseling to deal with his anger and his abandonment issues. He agreed then, but now almost a year later is going back on it. The last time we talked about it, it just turned into a fight. I don't even know how to talk to him anymore. I would love to tell him that because of the way he is treating me he is failing as a husband...but that would make for a hell of a month. I can just hear him and his mommy talking about it. He isn't a bad guy. He is actually a really good guy. He is just angry and has NO CLUE on how to treat me. When we split up he was dating an 18 year old and another girl...I asked him why he was better to them than he was to me and he told me it was because they were more mature than I am. He later said he didn't mean it...but wow. I'm very grown up for my age...I've been through hell and back in my young life. I'm a little sensitive and I tend to cry very easily, but I don't think that makes someone immature. I'm emotional and the only emotion he can show is anger. Just when I think it is getting better it blows back up in my face. Thank you again, and I appreciate further advise from you or anyone :)
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reader, doesntunderstand +, writes (19 December 2008):
doesntunderstand is verified as being by the original poster of the questionTo EyesWideOpen: thank you very much for your post. I have been considering it, however we tried it, like I said before, he says if we do it again it will just be a divorce. I take it as kind of a threat from his end because he knows how much I love him and the thought of divorce is so awful...but I have to do what I have to do.
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reader, eyeswideopen +, writes (19 December 2008):
He is losing you. I'd separate from him. Let him find his own keys for awhile. I wonder if he'll have all that much to talk over with his Mom once you are out of the picture. You need some time away and some peace and quiet. I was exhausted just reading your post.
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reader, anonymous, writes (19 December 2008): hey my advice to is that you should break it off with him. I understand that you love him dearly and want to be with him, but the truth is you really cant change people i know it would be nice but its not reality. I think you deserve somebody who will genuinly make you happy and from the sounds of it meshes with your personality better. I know its hard but i think you would be glad in the long run if you did.
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