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*ombatsotre
writes: Hi,This is a difficult one and i really need some help and guidence.My girlfriend hates my parents so much she is letting it drive a wedge between us.She has hated my parents for a long time because she disapproves of the way they treat and manipulate me. They are far from the perfect parents, but i love them very much and they have done a lot for me.This has been ongoing for a while now and my gf has a big problem with me trying to develop a good relationship with them. My parents and I have had many ups and downs over time, some of them my fault and some of it their fault. But she cant seem to accept me trying to have good or at least stable relationship with them when they cause so many problems for me, and ...for us. It should be noted though, that it is my gf who makes their actions into problems for us, directly they have never done anything to cause trouble for myself and my gf.Recently I was home and had a huge bust up with my parents. I have never ever spoken to them or argued with them like I did that day, the reason? My gf. They said quite a lot of unpleasent and hurtful things about her. I already new they dont like her because of their previous sly comments and implications, and i finally snaped. I fought with them for 3 hours defending her and our relationship, as well as a number of other things too.I told my gf all about the argument, hoping for some kind of acknowledgment that i battled and argued and spoke to two people i love and respect like i never have before, all i the name of defending my her.We agreed at this point that we wouldnt stay around at their house again. I nearly lost and threw away the entirety of my realtionship with my parents in that argument.Since then i have discusse with my mum and dad some of the problems we have in our relationship, and we are all making the effort to try and correct and rebuild the bond we al once had.I also have a 17 year old brother, a 9 year old sister who I am very close to, and a 1 year old sister.I was talking to my gf this evening, and she said she wanted to go for a walk around the ribble valley again (where my mum and dad live), so i told her i needed to go home in september anyway to see my brother, spend time with my sister and sort some stuff out with my dad, and we also need to find my gf's neckless she had left in a beuty spot we previosuly went to. So i suggested doing evrything in one go, and maybe it would be a good idea to stay over.Well....she went nuts. Principly because we had already discussed not staying at their house, something i overlooked when logically working out how we can do all these things at the same time. She is really really upset and pissed off ith me for wanting to develop or fix a relationship with my parents after some of the things they have said about her.I hate what they ahve said and implyed, and i have let them know in the stronges tpossible way (our argument), but im not willing to give up my relationship with my parents over it. My gf was very upset and angry at my parents and this ll came out with her getting at me. She said that she want going to go near them so if i wanted to go i would hvae to on my own. BUt she also said, that if i went on my own she would be upset, angry and disrespected becuase its like i am overlooking and accepting their opinion and comments about her. She also said expecting her to put up with their opinon of her is disrespectful of her, and shows i can elt them get away with what they want and that i accept them saying negativee things about her.I cant win. If i ask her to be by my side i am in the wrong for expecting her to be there and she thinks i am in effect ignoring their comments, and she thinks i am putting them before her, but if i go on my own she says its like i am letting them know they have won.She uses emotional manipulation too, saying i it was the other way around and her parents didnt like me that she wouldnt have anything to do with them.She is in effect asking me to choose between her and my parents. I love her very much and it pains me to know they dislike her and have said unpleasent things, but i love them very much too they are my parents!!It should be noted that my parents have never treated my gf badly or disrespectfully in person they have just voiced unpleasant opinions.I tried so much in the covo not to get mad I asked her to go away and calm down and we could talk about it properly when she gets home she is in america)I havae attached the skype conversation for you to view we were both logged in as friends users so the names are not ours, i am under claire woodfield (lol).I really dont know how to handle this. Se lets her outside upsets with my parents come between us and gets very personal and upsetting towards me by insuinuating and implying i don't love her enough because i wont cut them out of my life for the things they said. I love my family very much, its not just about my mum and dad, my young sisters are at home with them too.Please help me out. Am i worng or not telling them to fuck off and i dont want to knwo them as long as they direspect my gf? Or is she wrong for putting me in the position where i have to choose? She says i am putting my mum and dad first by continuing to try and sort out our relationship even tho we have had many problems and even tho they have said unpleasent things about her. I really unerstand it must be horrible for my gf to have to deal with my mum and dad when they dont like her, but isnt it far worse for her to expect me to reduce my contact and relationship with them to donwn to almost nothing? She asked me how i would feel if her parents diliked me and had said bad things about me to laura. I told her that i wouldnt like being around them but i would for her sake becuase she need a relationship with them.Please help me out and give me advice. This is the only thing we are weak on, we almost broke up once when she said there is no way she will allow our future children access to my mum and dad.Here is the skype convo, i wanted to leave it and not let an argument form, so we could talk about it another time, the names are not ours,,,(this is the typing at the end of our verbal convo when i asked her to go before things got out of hand)see yaLaura01:15bye oney01:15 i love youclaire woodfield01:15upset againLaura01:15il speak laterclaire woodfield01:15cheers01:15 courtesy of ur parentsLaura01:15its not my fault. and i have ramaine calm, and rationalm and i havnt got at you or been nast01:15 this is exactly wha i meanclaire woodfield01:15no u let ur parents do thatLaura01:15when i say outised influences and upsets u allow between usclaire woodfield01:16it isnt outside]Laura01:16u allowd ur upset with them between usclaire woodfield01:16its very much insideLaura01:16me and you01:16 if u dond stop this, its going to drive us apart again. so go and get a check on yourself nd ratinalise, and stop blming me for the fact other people dont like you01:17 if it was anyone else i wudnt want anything to do with them01:17 just like claire n katie01:17 but its not its my parents the people i love most in the world second only to you01:17 think about how difficult a position that puts me inclaire woodfield01:17yet i have to have all the shit...the person you love 'most' in the worldLaura01:17especially we i try and do the right think and i do argue and defend youclaire woodfield01:17doesnt seems right to meLaura01:18ok01:18 well please go01:18 your making me mad01:18 and i dont want to be01:18 i love you honey01:18 il speak to you soon01:18 mwaxxxxclaire woodfield01:19arguing and then being pally pally witht them the next muinute means nothing u may aswell of just said yeah ur right, they still think they're right and that they have won you over and ur in their precious little grasp againLaura01:19stop it01:19 your being nasy to me01:19 and you dont need to beclaire woodfield01:19no im not01:19 its the truthLaura01:19babe01:19 just leave it01:19 and goclaire woodfield01:19what have i said there thats incorrectLaura01:19i ahve asked you several times01:19 ur gettng me angry01:19 leave it01:19 and go01:19 please babe01:20 dont make me turn skype off01:20 i love you honey01:20 now isnt the tme to talk about thisclaire woodfield01:20its never the time to talk aboutLaura01:20we will talk properly about it when you have calmed downclaire woodfield01:20cos im the one the gets all the shit for it01:20 anyway as you wish im goingLaura01:20im not sying your wrong, and im not saying im right, and we do ned to talk about it, but now isnt the right timeclaire woodfield01:20see you 2moraLaura01:20i love youclaire woodfield01:21the next day ecve01:21 your not saying im right?01:21 so ur parents may be right to say all of those things about me01:21 i tell you what01:21 its a fucking jokeLaura01:21honey i love you01:22 go and calm down and wel tal properly about this when your calm01:22 what they say and o inst right but i dont want to break of my reltionship with them because i dont agree with what they say or doclaire woodfield01:22im never going to be calm about them, not aslong as what the say and do is overlooked just because they are your parentsLaura01:22i love them very much, they are my parents01:23 its not overlooked honey, but i cant just break off my relationship with them01:23 because of the opinions they haveclaire woodfield01:23right so what solution do you suggestLaura01:23i suggestclaire woodfield01:23oh its laura shud put up with it01:23 yeah thats fairLaura01:23yes01:23 for my sake01:23 cos im sorry01:23 but yur a big girl01:23 and uttig uo with my oarents not liking you01:24 is a lot esier than me cancelling my relationship with them01:24 think about what your asking of me01:24 you want me to distance myself form two people i love very much01:24 becuase what they say about you is upsetting to youclaire woodfield01:24thats accepting someone treating me like thatLaura01:24what they say is wroing baby and i hat itclaire woodfield01:24it should be upsetting to you toLaura01:24but not enogh to lose themclaire woodfield01:25if it was anyone else you would be mad so wh not withthemLaura01:25im in such a hard position01:25 i am mad with them01:25 i scremaed and shouted and had big arguments over iy01:25 i am madclaire woodfield01:25its not upsetting enough that they treat me 'the peron you love most' like shitLaura01:25but not enoght to lose my mum and dad01:25 seeclaire woodfield01:25yeah and they you play happy familires again01:25 they just think they have wonLaura01:25your getting at me again, putting stuff in inverted commasclaire woodfield01:25againLaura01:25ok01:25 thats enough01:26 you have drawn me into an argument i have been trying to avoid01:26 bebe we can talk bout this properly when we are both calm and rationalclaire woodfield01:26this isnt an arguent these are the factsLaura01:26i love you honey01:26 baby01:26 its ok01:26 wel sort this ut01:26 out01:26 its a very sensitive subject01:26 im not dismissing you01:26 and i am keeoing myself calm01:27 we will talk properly about this when you have calmed down and your not upset01:27 i love you babyclaire woodfield01:28im not being second to ur parents my hwole life, and im not expecting you to cut off relationships with them, so your going to have to come up with some solution to itLaura01:28honey please stop for now01:28 i will listen to you01:29 and we will discuss thisproperly01:29 but whilst ur upset, and half way round the world it is not the right timeclaire woodfield01:29no its never listened to on this subject, just dismissedLaura01:29just know i love you very much01:29 and i cant wait to see youclaire woodfield01:29yeah01:29 okLaura01:29no honey im not dismising you01:29 alright honeyclaire woodfield01:29yeah u are01:29 as usual on this subjectLaura01:30honestly babe we will talk about this properly soon01:30 no babe im not01:30 im in a very difficult position01:30 ok01:30 babe01:30 thats enoug now01:30 i love you so muchclaire woodfield01:30yeah it is enough01:30 ive had eough shit off them to last me a life timeLaura01:31im sorry for not beng able to sort it now, but honestly its not the right time honeyclaire woodfield01:31but hey im just being a ig girlLaura01:31baby i love you01:31 go and have a walk and a drink and have a good last nigth in vegasclaire woodfield01:31the stres it put me through all the tears and moods...is it that easy to forgetLaura01:31have a think about everything we need to dicuss and what you want to say to me and how, and wel sort it when you get backclaire woodfield01:32ive said everything hereLaura01:32babe, your not the only one this stresses ok.01:32 i love you01:32 your mazing01:32 amazingclaire woodfield01:32yeahLaura01:32mwaxxxclaire woodfield01:32cheersLaura01:32yesclaire woodfield01:32i feel itLaura01:33ok honey01:33 i love you01:33 i will speak to you soon baby01:33 i can wait to see you!!!claire woodfield01:33bye01:33 xLaura01:33bye baby01:33 xxxxxxx
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reader, anonymous, writes (28 August 2009): aww you are a very caring person. i dont have much to say this may not be good advice, but i think in time she will get over it. Just tell her you understand that this will take time for the wounds to heal, and that you want to do everything possible to help her because you love her so much but you dont want to live the rest of your life without parents. Ask her to step up and to do this for you as you have done so much for her. Just ask for some peace, and let her know that if your parents dis respect her again or vice versa, that you will stop seeing them. (let your parents know that this is thier last chance, or your out) Ask her if she cares about you as much as you care about her to give your family a second chance as they want to make it work with her.HOwever dont agrevate the situation by saying to your girlfriend that you dont want to talk about it, i know this makes the situation worse. Let your girlfriend talk and talk and talk all night long....let her get it alllll off her chest. Just keep showing your support, let her know how much you would appreciate it if she gave them a second chance. Let her know you will take care of her, and that it wont happen again.... and that if it does you will rescue her from harms way. If she is willing to give them a second chance try and reward her... with romance and a few little gifts to show your appreciation. its a tough situation, your girlfriend will be shitty for a while but in time she will come round, if she doesnt then maybe you should think about your relationship with her. Just try and compromise and take it step by step, dont jump straight into it.i hope this helps a bit xox
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reader, linz09 +, writes (28 August 2009):
Ok...So I think this situations got very messy, you obviously love your girlfriend and I dont think you want to continue the arguments with your parents either.So don't give your girfriend ammunition to call your parents, that means stop moaning about them to her and tell her from this moment on I do not wish to talk or discuss my parents with you anymore and would like it if you would respect that and secondly dont discuss your girlfriend with your parents and if they raise their voice or bad mouth her, don't react go to your room and start a journal and write down your greviances this way...and this way you wont feel like your stuck in the middle.If you constantly run back and fourth telling your girlfriend stuff then it causes the problems, stop that now and keep calm, dont discuss anymore issues about them.See how thing progress when you take more of a backseat and stop reacting to this problem.Hope this works(:
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reader, linz09 +, writes (28 August 2009):
What is wrong with your girlfriend, has she got some kind of issue or problems herself. I have been in a similar situation when I was your age where an ex boyfriend did exactly what your girlfriend is doing to you..using mind games and manipulating you constantly and causing problem after problem to the degree where I argued with my parents. Its an awful situation to be in and I'm afraid you're girlfriend is the catalyst, the main cause of your arguments and the break down of your relationship with your parents.Don't let this girl manipulate and upset your family any longer, if she really loved you hun she wouldn't be putting you into this horrible selfish situation.She wouldn't say such nasty things and she wouldn't want to cause all these problems for you.I know you probably don't want hear what I have to say next, but I would seriously think about ending this relationship, Who wants to be in a relationship with someone whose going to constantly cause you so many problems and heartache, no partner should ever make you choose between them or your parents.And I think your parents are reacting the way they are because they can see whats happening and what this girl is really like...you don't see these things when you think you're in love, not until afterwards.Let me know how things turn outlinz:)
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reader, wombatsotre +, writes (28 August 2009):
wombatsotre is verified as being by the original poster of the questionHI, sorry its such a long post, but i feel i need to add a couple of points. Firstly im really sorry about the spelling!! Secondly, when you read the conersation, after everything i have typed the name claire woodfield apears, and after everything she types the name Laura appears. I just thought it needed clarifying so its not cinfusing who was speaking.I also wanted to add some things in my gf's defence, becuase i feel i didnt do her opinions justice. She hate my parents so much principly becuase of all the heartache and difficulty they have put me through. When i dont kive my life as they want they make things very diffcult for me. I am at uni and i rely on them for financial support whilst i study, this in essence is a huge leverage they have over me when i run my life in a way they dissaprove of. She also hates them so much becase they have said unpleasent things about her, like she is manipulative and she wants to run away with our money, and that i only want her for sex etc etc. So its completely understandable why she hates them so much. It also very hard for her, because i rant and moan about them to her, and i cam back form our argument so close to cutting them out of my life, and she cant understand why i m going back to try and be a happy family, she thinks (my mum has got her dirty claws into you again", as she put it.It should also be noted, that whilst i say some terrible things about my mum and dad, my gf says as bad if not worse things about them. Unprovoked and without reaons she oftnen says some very nasty and unpleasent things about them, and always calls my mum a bitch etc.I though this info might help you understand her side a bit more. Her argument is that i mustn't love her enough if i allow myself a relationship with them when they say things like that about her, and when they treat me so bad sometimes.
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