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Do sleeping pills have nasty side affects?

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Question - (4 March 2008) 13 Answers - (Newest, 4 March 2008)
A female United Kingdom age 51-59, anonymous writes:

Are sleeping pills any good? Do they actually work and are there ones that dont make you sick?

I was put on anti depressants some years ago but the side affects were horrendous, and i just couldnt take them.

Ive got 2 kids and I have a lot going on in my life at the moment, and I cant get to sleep, and when I do, I wake up every couple of hours with things going over in my head. I'm smoking too much and I just feel if I could sleep properly, everything would be easier to deal with.

But I'm worried that sleeping pills will have nasty affects?

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A reader, anonymous, writes (4 March 2008):

Yea hun thats were I got mine from and this time it was buy one get one free worked out at £15 each bottle lasts two months so thats not bad for 4 months supply hunny, They came from america took just over a week xxxxxxxx

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A reader, anonymous, writes (4 March 2008):

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I forgot to mention i looked at the site for the pills, but it is in dollars? and was sooooooooooo dear? Maybe will be cheaper on eBay?

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A reader, anonymous, writes (4 March 2008):

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Hi Mnady, thanks for your kind words. You have been through so much shit! Yet still sound so upbeat and able to cope with everything! My kids are 13 and 11 and i guess thats the age when they are old enough to not notice what we are doing at times, but not young enough to need me to be 100% on the ball 24/7. one of them is out with jhis mates at the moment, the other is a tv addict! they really dont notice a thing seriously. Bought the smallest bottle just before getting them (obviously added cola and not til we got home!)and am half way through it. They have been fed and have youth club soon, which is near the house, they go in a group. I wouldnt expose them to anything that would worry them. Honestly. Sounds bizarre but i already feel more chilled, and i know thats not the answer, but i keep thinking if its pmt, tomorrow will be better. And i will definately try to get into the doctor tomorrow again. This ring on the day thing sucks because i have to drive my kids to school 5 miles and the surgery opens at 8.30, just when i'm halfway to school! and its first come first served at our clinic!!

You're lovely you are, very good with the advice.

I hope you get the internet sorted.

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A reader, anonymous, writes (4 March 2008):

Hunny

I have been were you are right now and Im going to be honest and truthfull forget the vodka!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I no were your at ok I truely do and to admit that is very hard for me as I look back now and want to cry for the person I was then, It makes me very unhappy. IM NOT THAT PERSON ANYMORE!!!!!If I can do it YOU CAN!!!!Ive been beaten raped my son has been abused my ex husband tryed to kill me, ive lost 2 friends to suicide in the last 2yrs and this is just a few bits hunny the last 2yrs I wouldnt have got through without the experiences from the other things I went through and of course without family and friends...The link I sent you will work hunny if you give it a chance and the herbal bust boom link says p.m.t help and it really works sweetheart...Personally I dont think you smoking is a big deal at the mo thats not a huge issue, But the buying vodka before you pick the kids is and it may take the pain away for a short time but your children WILL! notice and I suggest you throw it down the sink....AND THINK!!!!!!!I am more than happy to help you get through this talking helps and you can message me anytime hun, my computor is not working properly at mo so im having to get my messages when I can but from the 7th friday its all fixed so hunny lets see if we cant fix some of these problems for you eh!!!!!I hope you read this before you open that bottle and if you have tip it down the sink and message me PLEASE TAKE CARE OF YOU HUNNY AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO NO AND CARE WHAT YOU ARE FEELING LOVE AND PRAYERS LOVE MANDY XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

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A reader, anonymous, writes (4 March 2008):

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Thank you everyone. This is a nightmare. I cant seem to snap out of it. Ive got 20 minutes til i have to go get the kids and i dont want to start crying in front of them! Im going to stop at the store and get some vodka. Only a small bottle! I just want something to pick me up today. If it is just the pmt, it might be better tomorrow. I'm sure its not depression? Although the sleeping problem has been going on a few weeks, but its mainly to do with a situation thats going on in my life at the moment, thats completely out of my control.

Its very hard to exercise and not smoke so much when you feel so crap.

My eyes are so puffy. Atleast its sunny enough to stick some glasses on!

God i hate being a female! grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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A male reader, Boonridge McPhalify United Kingdom +, writes (4 March 2008):

Boonridge McPhalify agony auntcut down the cigarettes as they will definately contribute to the insomnia as nicotine always raises levels of dopamine-a neurotransmitter involved in reward and excitement.

Drugs that raise levels of dopamine as their main effect are stimulants like cocaine and speed but not caffeine (it mostly does adrenaline) and excess dopamine will make your mind race and make metal relaxation very hard to achieve.

your depression will affect your sleeping pattern and the poor sleep will negatively exacerbate your depression.

sleeping tablets are often addictive (anything with -azepam at the end especially so) and dont work after about a week and withdrawl symptoms can include severe insomnia, depression, halucinations, intense unbearable anxiety, etc.

you could try cutting down on cigareetes drastically and eating foods like fish, bananas, potatoes, nuts, etc. rather than processed foods like ready meals and burgers. This will increase the nutitional content of your diet and a strong B vitamin complex and Omega 3 fish oils will help (omega 3 is used in production of hormones that regulate appetite and sleep and B vitamins are essential for a normally functioning nervous system).

Also when you have the time try to exercise in a way that pleases you, for example a short walk at sunset or go for a gentle swim. This will stimulate your body and produce endorphins which in turn certainly improve your mood.

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A reader, anonymous, writes (4 March 2008):

p.m.t hunny Bust boom you may think im nuts but this was advertised and the advert stated relives .p.m.s symptoms and I had tryed everything and I mean everything so my fella ordered these as a last resort and hunny my p.m.t is gone I get 1 or 2 days pain 1 day a little teary but thats it no real bad depression for 2weeks and no more mood swings and also for sleeping you could try calms a herbal remedy there are a few out there ill send you the link for the bust boom it may sound daft but sweetheart its not all about your boobs its a bloody miracle is what it is and ive had p.m.t running my life for over 20yrs not now 3months free

http://www.bustboom.com/

And any other woman out there they are worth every penny I couldnt belive the change in me its amazing and my boobs havent gone really huge just firmer thats a plus its more for the p.m.t I got it TAKE CARE MANDY XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

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A reader, anonymous, writes (4 March 2008):

Hi Hunny

You need to sleep as you are going round in circles with a depression here and I suggest a doctors ap and for you to see a counsellor, Sleeping tablets are not the long term answer ive suffered depression and there was not one pill they gave me that made me feel better only terribly worse, when you see your doctor ask him for a few weeks of sleeping tablets a low dose one hunny as some do have side affects that carry on the next day, Im on them for my back pain as I canot sleep because of the pain and ive kept it down to a low dose for 4yrs Ive had to have them as the pain got so bad there was no other way but as they can be addictive some people need bigger doses and I refuse to take bigger doses so ive managed with what I have its the same with the pain medication addictive and some would want more I take less and only take extra on a bad day, I was admitted to hospital because of a breakdown yrs ago now and like you all I needed was to sleep, 3months later after antipsycotic medication I was still there I got myself out love it was after 10yrs of so called help they realised I was allergic to all these antidepressants and antipsycotics (wrong spelling I think) and I didnt need them my body was so tired because of certain life problems I needed sleep, And thats what you need hunny sleep go and talk with your doctor and see what he can advise for a few weeks you will be supprised what a few weeks of decent sleep can do for you body soul and mind...Im sending you a link to help as well

http://www.studenthealth.co.uk/advice/advice.asp?adviceID=171

http://www.healthyplace.com/communities/depression/related/self_help.asp

There is one for sleep and one for depression hunny I hope you feel better soon just remember a few weeks only for sleeping tablets you dont need the added pressure of an addiction love TAKE CARE WITH LOVE AND PRAYERS MANDY XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

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A female reader, red1982 United Kingdom +, writes (4 March 2008):

It sound more like depression then sleeping problems (I suffer with depression too). Very much linked together. The fact that you wake up a lot flagged up depression anyway.

I used to take anti depressants but didn't like the way I was on them - could have told me that my whole family was dead and I wouldn't have cared less!! So I stopped them and started doing little things to pick myself up. I got a job - only a little unimportant one, but earning my own money was great. I also walk a lot which is good for you - something to do with hormones in the brain but I forget what they are called. I take more of an interest in my appearance and make sure that I eat on a regular basis, something little every couple of hours (unsalted nuts, fruit and fruit etc so that I didn't gain weight.

Maybe you could talk to your GP or call the mental health line (I'm really sorry I can't remember the number but your GP will have it).

I hope you are feeling better soon. Feel free to email me for a chat anytime.

xxx

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A reader, anonymous, writes (4 March 2008):

Have you tried melatonin pills? It is the hormone produced in the pineal gland (located in the brain) that regulates the body's circadian rhythm. If the body does not produce enough at night then you will not get enough sleep. Many times I get awake after only 5 or 6 hours of sleep and dan't get back to sleep. I have started to use a melatonin supplement. If I get awake after 5 hours and don't feel like I will be able to go back to sleep, I take a 3 mg pill and in 15 minutes I am in a deep sleep for another 2 to 3 hours. It works great for me. There are also some time release ones that are supposed to last longer, but I have not tried them, as what I do seems to work well. They are inexpensive and can be found at any health food store or supplement section of a discount store like WalMart in the US. Google melatonin and check them out.

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A reader, anonymous, writes (4 March 2008):

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I just feel so drained all the time! Oh i didnt think of herbal ones, thanks for that. I think im gettin my pmt back again too, which doesnt help. I spend too much time feelin sorry for myself and crying, then when my period comes i am ok again. To a certain extent. I dont get it every month, but sometimes its just a nightmare.

I tried seeing the doctor today but they are fully booked, and a nurse was gonna ring me back to asses weather i needed to be seen today as emergency, but i didnt answer the phone. I dont want to speak to anyone now, except people that know what i am talking about. If that makes sense. My doc is good and i would only want to talk to him not a nurse. Ive got a few hours til i get the kids from school so might go and watch tv in bed.

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A female reader, red1982 United Kingdom +, writes (4 March 2008):

I take herbal sleeping pills from Holland and Barrett when I really need them, they don't have any nasty side effects, prescription pills always make me spaced out the following day. They are not as effective as ones from the Dr though.

You might also want to adopt a good bedtime routine for yourself (like you probably do for your kids). I make sure that all of my chores for the day are done by 8 so that I can relax properly, watch TV for a bit, but make sure that I turn it off about half hour-and hour before I want to go to bed and read or listen to soothing music. Have a bath and then get into bed. I make sure that I go to bed at the same time each night (makes me feel really old) and get up at the same time each morning so that my body is getting used to what I am doing.

Lavender on your pillow is also supposed to be good but \i can't stand the smell so I can't guarantee that. I also have a pen and paper by my bed so that when I wake up in the night with thoughts of the things I need to do I can write them down.

That and the obvious cutting down on caffeine and not eating too close to bedtime.

I hope this helps. Not getting enough sleep is really awful!!

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A reader, anonymous, writes (4 March 2008):

Ciggies are notoriously bad for keeping you awake. Try to at least cut down.

You say you were on antidepressants - why? Clearly the issues you had are still unresloved. You say you've got a lot going on in your life, so it may be best to talk to someone about what's going on rather than taking sleeping pills.

For sleeping pills, you normally have to go to your GP who prescribes them. He/She has to be totally satisfied that you're doing everything you can to be able to sleep properly. Some sleeping pills are known to be addictive, so it's not a good idea to go down that road. I understand that overall they do work, but you have to be careful which ones they are.

The normal non-chemical recommendations are having a bath before bed, lavender drops on your pillow, drinking warm milk (if you can bear to!)or maybe drinking a tisane (fruit or herb tea). I've also heard that writing all your thoughts down in a book or just a piece of paper can help get everything out. Give it a go!

I understand that it can't be easy to sleep with two kids. Would it be possible for you to have a "me time" where someone else has them for a few hours? It'll be good for both Mum and the kids if Mum can have a bit of chill out time.

Good luck :-)

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