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writes:Why do women get angry if a virgin man wants to marry a virgin woman? And why do most of them lie about there sexual past to the virgin guy?
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reader, anonymous, writes (12 May 2011): This is verified as being by the original poster of the questionLOVE? Who are you trying to convince me or you? Its good you "LOVED" and shared your body with them. Whatever eases the pain i guess.
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reader, anonymous, writes (11 May 2011): I don't know why you are angry. You have high standards cool...so do i....very high standards. Fault? there is no 'fault' with the nature of sex butregards Pre marital sex ... whatever the INDIVIDUAL serves up, is what is brought to the tabel...that is about the individual and nothing to do with pre marital sex. Two virgins that waited untill they were married could quite easily bring to the table some very untasty dishes.I actually do respect that CHOICE of couples wanting to wait until they are married, but that does not meen the others who don't wait are wrong... it's all sweet but quite foolish to think you will live happily ever after because of your virginity x2 ..maybe yes and maybe no...only LIFE will tell what is served up.. Sharing the body with MANY men ..you say...so where do you draw the line ..can she share it with one man .... and be unscathed ...you have the problem!!!!!!!I have shared my body with men...who i have loved...i have shared my body with my partner who i love...I find honour in my life for one simple reason...because i LOVED and i don't need any puritan/ zeelot /prude/to label me or anyone like me as a dishonour.You are very cynical and only you have to live with that..i am happy...good bye and good luck in your quest.Spunky monkey.
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reader, anonymous, writes (11 May 2011): This is verified as being by the original poster of the questionLook some teens get raped lose there virginity totaly understandable and i would not divorce her i know it was not her fault. But those women who sleep around and expect a virgin guy to understand is so unfair, she shared her body with many men theres nothing cool or honourable in that for either men or women. Many kids dieng of AIDS, STI'S,unwanted pregnancies,abortions etc thats what premarital sex brings to the tables.
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reader, anonymous, writes (10 May 2011): Maybe you could actually read my words and understand i have said nor implied anything of the kind.
It is quite obvious that there is a movement growing ever bigger in the world about virginity...almost a 'cult' the latest deal...get yours!!!!
This is dangerous to a young womans well being, placing worth primarily on virginity.
Have you read the posts where the young teenage girls are so scared because they have lost their virginity...and feel so ashamed..Nobody should be made to feel like this, and it's in one name and it is not love.
Above all, we know about honour and virginity...(for some) it's a pathway to mutilation and shame, a pathway to feeling worthless and gives some a licenece to kill.... i won't stamp that licence. Virgin or non virgin neither deserve what goes in hand with so called virginity.
Relationships that work or fail..virgins and non virgins.. SEX is a natural part of life and so much so that it CREATE'S LIFE.
I am the one who is hated everywhere
and who has been loved everywhere.
I am the one whom they call Life,
and you have called Death.
G,macrea
Spunky monkey
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reader, anonymous, writes (10 May 2011): This is verified as being by the original poster of the questionHmmm, and so many marriages with people who have sexual past have love,truth,commitment? Please. Why cant a virgin have both love,passion etc and everything thats important in life? You make it sound as if some one wants a virgin then that its not for love also.
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reader, anonymous, writes (7 May 2011): What i am trying to say.. is virgins have every right to be proud and value their long held out virginity i agree with that bit...but it is when SOME (not all) ....virgins DEVALUE another person who is not a virgin, because they believe somehow that they are too high on the purity scale to lower themselves to have sex with a non virgin. I hear so many people saying I WANT A VIRGIN and no mention of i want somebody loving, compassionate etc! etc!so the label of virgin appears to be foremost in their minds above other qualities/ virtues that can last a lifetime.In some sad way, it seems every where we look we can see impurity in some form and it's almost like Virginity is ALL there is left in this world that is seen as pure, so we search for one ...forgetting our real goal...to search IN NOT OUT..... and searching ONLY on this path may not be as fruitful as one thinks. Compatibility .....we need a lot more than sharing virginity to have a good relationship.....and your best match could actually be a woman/ man with a past ....and if you have not got a past history then have you really lived and experienced the roller coaster of life? None of us are perfect and untouched by life and all it's emotions and too avoid them is not living fully ...Just my thoughts!!!!!All well and good if virgins hold out for other's and get it together but it holds NO lifetime guarantee of love/truth/humour/loyalty/etc! these qualities are far more pure and RARE than virginity in my opinion and last a lot longer. It all depends what one values FIRST more.Remember we were ALL once virgins :) so we all can understand and relate.SPUNKY MONKEY.
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reader, anonymous, writes (7 May 2011): Virginity is not about a person's value. It's a compatibility issue. There is nothing wrong or unfair about holding out for someone who matches what you want.
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reader, anonymous, writes (6 May 2011): Hi I respect your opinion and see where you are coming from but i see from a different angle not saying right but different. I do look simplistically or try ....You point out that when you marry a virgin 'you get a lifetime of exclusivity' i don't agree , and this is not always true, where does virginity come with any guarantee of 'lifetime'. Virginity is not love, that is eternal virginity is gone POP! in a min as i said before. The word 'exclusivity' also bothers me ...it could also be classed as wanting special ownership. In SOME minds ( not all ) wanting to marry a virgin is ego driven. In some other minds, they look for virginity for purity, again not guaranteed at all. 'Special bonds' can be formed in EVERY relationship, bonds do not only develop through newness. Yes you get a person who VALUED access to their body. I value access more highly to my spirit than my body in such a simple way. Self gratification could also come from holding on to something for so long for PRAISE. There are many views and opinions on this topic and we all have a different take. I am not a virgin but i was once. Of course we should all value ourselves BUT we should remember to value the other,s as well. I agree It's a hell of a lot more than popping one's cherry...it's about what do we value more.... the physical or the REAL PERSON REGARDLESS of VIRGINITY.Spunky monkey :) beat that grumpy...:)
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reader, anonymous, writes (5 May 2011): Pointing out that virginity is lost in a minute means that you have completely, utterly, totally missed the point. The fact that you even see the topic in such simplistic terms indicates how little you understand what's going on in the mind of someone who wants to marry a virgin.
When you marry a virgin you get a whole lifetime of exclusivity with them. You get that extra special bond that you only have with someone when have a new experience together with them. You get a person who valued access to their body that highly. You get a person that delayed their own gratification for so long just for you. You get a person that shares your outlook on something that is SO DEEP a part of them (and you.)
It's a hell of a lot more than just breaking a hymen one time.
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reader, anonymous, writes (5 May 2011): I don't think women do get angry if a virgin man want's to marry a virgin woman. However if a virgin man has a loving relationship with a woman who declares she is not a virgin and he dumps her, some would view this as very shallow and i would view it as a NON REAL LOVE and ego based unless one was lied to. I do believe that both should be honest from the outset, no bombshells later. I believe a woman should never be ashamed of her sexuality and her past sexual relationships. Each sexual encounter should be viewed as special in some way even if a mistake...but never regretted...we learn great lessons from mistakes and we should be allowed to be our own JUDGE...Virginity!!!! we all have different beliefs about what it really is....some hold a simple belief. If it's simply the physical aspect yes YIPPYDOO virgin POP!!!GONE!!!!!! in five minuits or maybe one :) where is the virginity now?If Searching for love, honesty ,loyalty, truth, etc is it only found in a virgin? it's found in people's spirit not in the sexual orientation or virgin or hoar, it's simply in people some people have it and some don't.....and it aint got NOTHING TO DO WITH VIRGINITY....PURITY AND LOVE IS NOT FOUND BETWEEN THE LEGS!!!!You cant turn a HO into a housewife ????? mary magdaline was good enough for Mr J....wonder why he never searched for a virgin.Spunky Monkey
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reader, eddie  +, writes (30 April 2011):
 Jamen Somasu says "women are incapable of being loyal by nature" That is a real pant load! He forgets about the committment factor of a relationship. That is a choice and says that a person chooses to honour the relationship over other urges. He is correct about urges but neglects the fact that many people are able to take vows seriosly.
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reader, anonymous, writes (25 April 2011): I wanted to remain a virgin until marriage and I wanted to marry a virgin woman. But I eventually gave it up in my later 20s because I was just so tired of never finding anyone like me and getting shit from women every time they found out I wanted a virgin. They hardly cared if I was a virgin or not, they just made me out to be a dickhead for wanting a virgin either way. It's bad enough trying to find another adult virgin. Let alone being a social outcast for trying to. There is a double standard against men with chastity these days.
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reader, anonymous, writes (24 April 2011): This is verified as being by the original poster of the questionthanks but i gota dissagree with female annonmous.even when a v guy posts that he just found hes fiancee is not a virgin most posters will say crap abt the guy and how the past is the past/blame her promiscouty on abuse low self esteem etc
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reader, anonymous, writes (24 April 2011): A lot of women are just immature and they don't want to accept adult responsibilities. They demand the freedom to choose their own sex life. But they won't accept responsibility for those choices as soon as there are any negatives to deal with. They are "forced" to lie because the truth would make them have to deal with the consequences of their actions.
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reader, Jamen Somasu +, writes (24 April 2011):
 Let me give you a crash course in this, brother.
A man's two evolutionary, biololigal, and psychological goals in life is two: 1) find the best suitable mate possible and 2) protect and support his mate, as well as their offspring. It was true since homo sapiens rose 15000 years ago, it is true now, and it will be true deep in the future. You sound like a woman that hasn't had a lot of guys...that is a great thing!
You see...in order to facilitate the accomplishments of those goals forementioned, a man needs a woman that knows what loyalty is and why it is so important to him (a woman is truly incapable of being loyal by nature; women are amoral creatures). That drives from our evolutionary fear of raising another man's child (as well as the risks of getting married, paternity fraud, etc). Those are far more implicating on a man than a woman so he needs the security that you will no stray on him. That is why, if I am correct about you, your value, for the good men (which aren't hard to find. It is easier to find a good man than a good woman), is over the roof (if you don't give it up as easily as your friends do, your value for the ones who just want to get laid will be really low).
It is up to you on what will you do with that info; but just take a look at your friends. You think they are happy now? Wait until they hit their 30's and realized that they are so used up no DECENT, good guy or nice guy will ever want them. Only the desperate or the needy do (and even those two would have wisen up by now).
A promiscuous woman is only good for one thing: getting off. And from a biologically, chemically, genetically, reproductively, and psychological point of view, the phrase "You can't turn a ho into a housewife" is fact.
Two promiscuous people trying to practice monogamy is a worse sight than seeing two 90-year olds trying to copulate. The mess at the end is just on the border of laughable and hilarious. Take American women for example in the following...
Promiscuous women are easy to spot when you know what to look for (and just about every male should know. If I know, EVERYONE knows).
By the way, there is no such thing as a "sexual peak" for women. What you call a sexual peak is simply the increase in testostorone production in the female body (which happens roughly on her late 20s and early 30s). She naturally becomes a bit more independent-minded and assertive. That is why that woman starts desiring other men, to the point where she would destroy her entire family to have that "high" she gets from doing so. This happens because nature, being the great balancer it is, gives every female primate a more aggressive approach to compete with the younger females (in our species, a woman's peak on looks, as well as her most fertile years, is between the ages of 17 to 22 on average). Since males would naturally prefer the younger, more fertile female over the old and less fertile, the female is designed to be more aggresive in its approach of other males to be competitive.
Unsurprisingly, this bring the following results: non-promiscuous, chivalrous and "conservative" women will be far less prone to let that testostorone rush affect her wheras promiscuous women, as well as women with a promiscouos past (never mind those who discarded their femininity) are another story altogether (basically, she had no practice whatsover controlling her hormones when she was younger and when those hormones were light in comparison to later in her years). If you are a single mother in your 20s, obviously you made your choices.It is not perfect; a few of those feminine women might let those hormones get ahold of her (although the ratio is very low) but the non-promiscuous girl will ALWAYS fall for this.
And when I though deeply about this, I realize that the great bulk of American women fit into all of this. That clears it up to me as to why foreign women are becoming a popular choice today for more American men...to the point where feminists tried to stop it in 2005 (although marriages between American men and foreign women simply increased more and more).
That is why American women lie about their virginity: they want to eat the cake and have it, too. At the end, you will be eating crap.
AND...if your numbers doesn't go further than your fist, count American women out of this (according to studies by several institutions back in October 2010 by Harvard, Michigan, San Diego state and more) the median American woman has had roughly 35 sexual partners by the time she is 25. Again, women will deny this and lie about it to your face because that makes her non-LT material. Interistingly, women have no problems revealing their deepest secrets when done anonymously (provide provides sexual pleasure from this).
Sometimes, it pays to take someone else's experience and learn from that instead. And seeing the skyrocketing divorce rates, the hyper-aggresive marriage and divorce system (highly pro-female), the lop-sided justice system (again, highly pro-female) and the psychological, reproductive, scientific, genetic, socioeconomic, and financial reasons as to why this is so, I am choosing a path that will not lead to personal ruin in 5-10 years from (and I am not alone). After all, instinct didn't put a man on the moon; intellect did. And anyone who followed the former to heart is simply not worth the suffering later on. That is where I start studying heavily on our older male generation's mistakes.
After all, not everyone lives long enough to make every mistake themselves.
And frankly, I want to move forward.
Anyway bro...when a woman tells you not to worry about her past, she is really asking you to, 1) be stupid and 2) not be a man. Those are the women you need to stay away from. Pick up a book in female psychology while you are at it. You can tell a woman's past by looking at her in many easy ways(and she doesn't even need to say anything). Trust me...you will avoid a catastrophe later in life.
There is far more to this. If you want more, message me.
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reader, anonymous, writes (24 April 2011): People only get angry if a non virgin man wants to marry a virgin because of the double standard. No one gives a rat's tu-tu if a virgin wants to marry a virgin. People lie to get what they want. If you straight up tell any woman you will only marry a virgin, a certain percentage will lie to stay in the game just like they'd lie about prior drug use if you said it was unacceptable.
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reader, eddie +, writes (24 April 2011):
Women probably get angry about that because it implies they're less worthy if they've had sex. This would be especially trueif the guy is not a virgin. I really believe the virginity thing is almost always an issue with men as opposed to women.
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reader, TamyKarcz  +, writes (24 April 2011):
 Well honey...
1 NOT all women get angry if a virgin man wants to marry a virgin woman.. don't categorize please!
2 Why are you so sure they lie? Maybe they don't... and if they do... then again... it's only a small proportion who choose to lie..
Simple as that!
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