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writes:Alright, I just wanted to express my opinion.From a male perspective, and not that of a guy who looks around hungrily for sex. Women seem really image conscious, a little too much I'd say.I mean it's surprising how much women actually fret over this. Talking about size differences that barely look any different from a visual perspective. So many numbers! Insecurities about breast sizes, so much unneeded makeup.I can tell you in general to a man for a woman to look attractive, all that is needed at bare minimum is not being overweight, and I'm not talking about anything in numbers but visually, general hygiene care and looking modest - in a nutshell well looked after human being.Even sexually speaking, it's the man who should be more worried considering that he's the one that all the work depends on - yet women are still worried.Most women are already fine yet I see most women continue to fret over stuff that barely seems like a problem at all.Or is there something more to this? Do women have some kind of competition or acceptance problems with each other? What is going on?
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reader, Dipsydoodlenoodle +, writes (14 October 2008):
Because we are self conscious. I was in a fast food restaurant last week during the day and I watched a girl (late teens/early twenties) apply lip gloss, I watched her for at least 5 minutes - she then got her food (oh no she would need to reapply it). I told my bf as he was with me, as it was amusing me and he said men don't like make up (or he doesn't). To be honest I don't wear make-up. I do VERY occasionally but never for work, I don't see the point, but women will wear make up to cover bad skin/spots/scars etc.
Women are worried about being too fat because as the poster before said the average size for a woman in the UK is 16, and how many models/glamerous people on TV of those sizes are there? The models in the shops which they display their clothes on are thin/skinny. I'm slim (size 10) and I'm not worried about my size but it's down to my attitude, people can like me for who I am or not. I think my hips are huge in comparrison to me and I hate them, but I can't do anything with them so I just have to learn to live with them. I have small breasts, again I don't like them but they define who I am. The thing with clothes shopping for the larger lady is that shops have specialist "larger" secions which are usuall shoved away in the corner somewhere, I have the opposite problem I'm really tall so my section is shoved in the other corner. Fashon designers don't really cater for taller/larger/shorter/slimmer than average people so people begin to think they are the weird ones when in fact its the fasnion that is wrong!!
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reader, Fairy_Lu +, writes (28 September 2008):
 To be honest i think it all comes down to the media in the uk the average size for a women is a size 16, but has anyone seen a size 16 woman on a catwalk? Are there many famous singers and actresses who are that size yeh i bet you can name a few but i bet you can name 3 times as many skinny beautiful women. Women are meant to be curvy and if they for a chnage would put a real woman on a catwalk curves and all i think we would all feel proud of our own curves.
We are all beautiful in our own ways and we all know that, we where make up to hide blemishes and enhance are beauty it makes us feel better about oursleves. I know most people dont wear it all the time and most men prefer there laddies with naked faces but at the end of the day nobody forced us to put it on, we put it on because we want to.
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reader, birdynumnums  +, writes (28 September 2008):
 A girl whose face is covered with paint,
Attracts me more than one whose Ain't.
- Ogden Nash
I think that with both men and women, it's very normal and human to size up the competition. Women, however, have a bigger row-to-hoe because in our species, human females are the ones who preen and attract our mates visually, whereas in many other species, the male does the attracting (like the peacock!). Not all women are competitive, but the ones who ARE competitive are also competing against scads an scads of airbrushed models in magazines, therefore, lots an lots of preening!!! Some women are more competitive than others (think of the women who actually go into these fields) and lots of other women don't give it a second thought (I suspect you don't notice them as much as the first group; see poem), in much the same way that all of us know some incredibly vain men, while others aren't into shameless self-promotion (I would never go so far as to say entirely egoless, however...). If women do occasionally have acceptance problems with each other, I would say that it's NOT a general thing, so, it's not across the board. I would probably say that women may have individual problems from time-to-time with another women, most likely when they are younger and actually competing against someone else for the same job, man or program slot at Uni, perhaps. Women wind up becoming the nurturers of most children and families and often they share that responsibility with other females, so I'd like to think that most females get along pretty well together.
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reader, OddOne +, writes (28 September 2008):
 Okay, an answer coming from an extremely vain woman.
I fret over my dress size, my make up, my hair. I'm happy with my breast size, but I know a lot of girls that are very unhappy - for example, my sister.
I think it's mainly for male attention that some girls do it. I know a lot of girls who don't really give a damn about their apperance. But I'm one of those that will spend 3 hours getting ready.
I also call myself fat a lot and ugly. I'm told I'm beautiful a lot, but I always reject the compliment and say I'm not. I guess it's just self confidence issues.
I think it's just for attention really. To stand out. We just can't accept ourselves. Especially when someone is skinnier than you.
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reader, Aunty Em +, writes (28 September 2008):
 I don't think it's competition with each other at all. If you were one of us, you'd know that we regularly stick together on these issues. Ie. we'll talk about together how beautiful this woman is, or that woman is and how we'd much rather have her bone structure than our own etc.
I'm not saying this doesn't apply to men too, but it isn't really highlighted as being a male dominated topic. Do you know what's it's like to know our boyfriends and husbands like to jack off to slim, busty, airbrushed beautys? That is what we compete against - the fictional type of women. It's rather difficult not to see that as competition.
In my opinion anyway ...
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reader, anonymous, writes (28 September 2008): its just a girl thing its how we see ourselves we see ourselves bigger than we are and we all have problem areas men dont
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