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My marriage is in a rut and my 'friend' is now back in the picture! How do I get a commitment from him?

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Question - (19 July 2008) 4 Answers - (Newest, 24 July 2008)
A female United States age 51-59, anonymous writes:

I have been married for almost 12 years. For the past 6 years or so, my marriage has slowly deminished. The care for each other is not there any more. Both are not attracted to each other as well as no intimacy now for 3 years. Approximately 4 years ago a man came into my life (via work). I got to know him and his two daughters very well. He was single at the time, yet occasionally dated his ex girlfriend. During this time, we flirted and feelings had developed between us. It never went past a friendship though. We spoke all the time and it was always such a great feeling whenever we were with each other. I knew our friendship had grown into a really close relationship and we were always there for each other, but it never took the next step. A couple months later, he ended getting his "ex girlffriend" pregnant and he lied to me about it. I was very close to his mom at this point and explained how hurt I was that he lied to me about it. Him and I spoke about it as well and he was just embarrassed. We somehow lost track of eachother but he never stayed with the girl. She had the baby and we slowly diminished our friendship.

4+ years went by and both of us moved on without speaking to each other. Out of no where, he popped back into my life. He was not married but had a girlfriend and another baby with her. Through talking for long periods of time, he does not live with her and the relationship is very rocky. He has been with her on and off for 3 1/2 years and always says she was there for him when he was ging through tough times. He will never marry her and is afraid to get married period (I knew this already though). He is planning on getting a house of his own soon and claimed he is not going to go down the road of living with her again. He does not see him together with her forever, but wants to be there for his kids.

I am still in my rut of a marriage. Still no intimacy and just living our every day lives (as two single people). We have two kids and have just (without saying) stayed together for their sake. Meanwhile, we are still unhappy and feelings are not there anymore.

As my "friend" came back into the picture, their was an immediate connection again. Almost immediately we (and all the kids) started to hang out. all of these feelings were developing again as well as the constant reminder of me living the same life I was living 5 years ago with my husband. After a few conversations about this with my friend and another argument with my husband, I broke out of my box and told him it was over. There was really no response that defended that it was not over, so we have been living in seperate rooms ever since. This has been about 1 month.

In the meantime, my relationship with my friend has excelled (at points). I have never been a person who has had to chase anyone, but he does not call everytime he says he is going to. We have not had sex yet (even though we are dying to), but we have been intimate a few times. It ios very new in the relationship, yet we started off at where most relationships know it is stable.

Our conversations are so great and we just find ourselves staring at each other. We make eachother feel so great when we are with eachother, but as soon as we leave - it is a wonder of when we will see each other again. It is not that he does not call me, he does! The problem is his committment when he says he is going to call. He does not have a cell phone, works in the field and is back with his parents (to help get stable again). I have heard (even before we starte getting more physical) I will call you - and then nothing for a couple of days. If I try to call him, he does call right back, but still I want that follow through. I am used to that and with him, he does not see the importance of it. It is almost just a word to say at the end of our "meetings".

When we do talk about things, it is always very intense. We talk about wanting to be with eachother but need some time to actually break away. He claims there is "nothing there" with the girlfriend anymore, yet he sees her for his babies sake. I am always very supportive of him and his children and he is of mine. We know we will be there for each other no matter what but have such a strong, passionate, effectionate, personal and "sole mate" type of connection.

My dilemna is he got scared because I told my husband it is over and he is not ready to completely extinguish his relationship with his girlfriend. We both see each other together, but he is not willing to make that step yet. How do I take this and what do I do from here? We are crazy about each other and both say it was meant to be when he came back, but no it is bad timing right now. Do we hang in there or call it quits till both of us are completely done? It is just scary to know that we have such deep feelings, this is the 2nd time around and we acted on it this time.

How can I get a committment from him to know it is just him and I? Why does he not follow through when he says "I will call you"? I get mixed feelings thinking I am all he thinks about, yet if that were the case why would he not call when he says. Actions to me speak louder than words, but is he just confused right now because everything did move so fast this time? We do not want whatever we have to end, but it is scary on his part to move forward... HELP!!!

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A female reader, anonymous, writes (24 July 2008):

He's irresponsible. He goes out and gets girls to fall in love with him and have his kids. You really want someone like that? At least your husband stayed, this guy has a pattern of walking out on women repeatedly. He makes kids but doesn't support them, that doesn't exactly sound like Prince Charming to me. Try harder to talk to your husband, if that fails then seek divorce and look for a man who will treat you the way you should be treated- not some loser that skirts commitment. I can tell you as soon as you tell him you left your husband he'd say he wasn't interested.

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A female reader, pashanoodle Australia +, writes (19 July 2008):

pashanoodle agony auntI think it's a very good thing you have finally confessed your feelings to your husband - and that you are taking steps to dissolve that relatonship. Very necessary - given the lack of feeling you have described...and also your desire for another man/ lack of interest in the marriage.

In my humble opinion I think you should focus for now on ending your marriage as amiably as possible, for the children's sake at least...get yourself set up in your new single life. Once you have done that - then look at other relationships. IF this guy truly wants to 'be with you' (and I must say I am not convinced) then there would then be no obstacle on your side...so the ball would be in his court. Call him on it - tell him that you and he can be together but that he has to make himself available - sounds simple, but I suspect he may wish to 'have his cake and eat it too'. You should not be 'with' him in anyway while he is still in his r'ship....cause why would he make any change then?

I also wonder what his girlfriend would make of his description of their relationship...my guess is she'd be surprised....and I bet he's got a whole different version for her, poor woman.

I suspect this 'thrill' in what sounds like a boring period in your life is perhaps not all you have built it up to be in your mind...I hope I am wrong and that you two live happily ever after tho!

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A female reader, hlskitten United Kingdom +, writes (19 July 2008):

hlskitten agony auntHi

How can you get it to being just you and him? you cant, he is attached to someone else. Like it or lump it. Why does he not follow through when he says he will call? Because he is attaced. Like it or lump it. He is attached. You are attached. Sorry, harsh but there is no point in beating about the bush as they say. If you aren't happy with your bloke, why are you still 'with' him? If your other bloke isn't happy with his girl, why is he still with her?

I will eat my hat if you 2 have any real future. You are both bored but wont come out your comfort zones, not even for each other. You're both doing some major game playing, even if you dont realise it.

Just my opinion of course.

C xxx

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A reader, anonymous, writes (19 July 2008):

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The reasons for the answer of what makes him think he wants to be with me? The conversations we do have are very deep, effectionate as well as caring. He does tell me he has wanted us to be together ever since the last time we went seperate ways and now that we are back together, it is a sign that he thinks we should pursue. He completeley physically and mentally expresses himself when we are together. He is the one who has tried to have sex and I have been the one holding back due to the emotions and committment involved. I am not a naive person, I am just very insecure when it comes to the committment with him. Everytime I do tell him that he needs to get his side in order without having me in his life, he agrees yet explains he does not want to lose me and will not do this without me around.

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