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My boyfriend is a pack-rat...Help !!

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Question - (2 November 2008) 8 Answers - (Newest, 23 November 2008)
A female United Kingdom age 51-59, *ammyg2 writes:

Hi I hope you can give me some good advise on this, I have been going out with my boyfriend for 2 years now and recently I have moved with him to a 2 bedroom flat in Chafford Hundred, I lived with him previously in hornchuch in a one bedroom which was very nice, but his problem is he is a hoarder and rarely throws things away, he had a flat on his own before that and he had stuff all over in, he had newspapers that he just put to one side so they piled high, and when you went to his bedroom his bed was literally in the middle of mounds of black bags which contained toys, dvds, old laptops etc that he has never bothered to throw away, and whenever I went there I had to step over all this stuff just to get to bed, and his kitchen was a mess papers everywhere, you certainly couldn't cook anything decent in there, Now he got rid of a lot of this stuff with the help of his dad, as this upset me so much I would end up in tears,so I stayed round my mothers while this was going on and he moved to Hornchurch, so he had to hire a big skip and getting rid of it I can tell you for all concerned was literally a nightmare, anyway when he moved I eventually moved in with him, which was lovely and I was happy then, little did I know that a massive amount of his stuff he took with him and put it in the attic that we had, this all came to light as we had to move again to Chafford, I ended up going back to my mothers as I just couldn't stand this and was unhappy about it breaking down in tears, but he however upset I got would not throw it out, so he hire a man and a van and his dad helped him again move this all to the new flat and because it was a two bedroom he just dumped all of his rubbish i.e black bags of toys, laptops, a rowing machine etc in this room and claimed it as HIS room and wouldn't let me look in there as it upset me to much, I must admit its partly me fault as I have been putting up with it all this time but it has upset me so much and I am just so unhappy with this situation that I have moved back to my mothers and gave him an ultimimatum he either clears that room and gets rid of the rest of his rubbish in 2-3 months or I don't want to know anymore I have had enough, I have been so stupid as I have literally furnished our flat, kingsize bed, chest of drawers etc, so he's laughing as he has got an already furnished flat, he is a bit on the lazy side and has never made any attempt to get clear this room of rubbish for me even though he has had offers of help from me and another man which you would think he would take as he knows perfectly well its really is upsetting me and has seen me in tears so many times, he says he loves me but I don't belive this as he isn't doing anything to better the situation.

My question is did I do the right thing as this might back fire, as I am afraid this might do as I don't think he will ever get rid for me even though it means losing me, but the thing is i don't really want to lose him but if I go back he won't make the effort and think I'm ok with it all, please help I need some advise?

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A female reader, supermum United Kingdom +, writes (23 November 2008):

supermum agony auntthat is reasonable, sell the stuff definately, try and get back some of the money you wasted babe.

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A female reader, Emilysanswers United Kingdom +, writes (5 November 2008):

If he asked you to buy it then I think it is fair to ask him to pay you back for it.

Good Luck!! xx

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A female reader, sammyg2 United Kingdom +, writes (5 November 2008):

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Thanks for the advice Emily and Supermum, I think your right Supermum I will just had to wade it out staying at my mothers for now and hope he listened to me and is clearing that room out with the rubbish in, otherwise I will just be unhappy, and anyway I think he is feeling it now the fact that I am not there and christmas is coming I doubt he would want to be on his own then.

Just one question Supermum and any other agony aunts who what to pitch in as I need all the advice I can get on this one.

What would you do with all the furniture I unfortunately brought, as I have given his 1 more month, which might roll onto 2 months, to get rid of his stuff and said if I am still have come next year or even for christmas, if he wants some of the furniture up there i.e kingsize bed, chest of drawers etc, which wasn't exactly cheap, he will have to give me the money for it giving him a alotted time to pay me, say 1-2 months, otherwise I will hire a van and pick the stuff up and try to sell it, of course I hope it doesn't come to this as we do really get on well together, but thats reasonable don't you think?

Sx

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A female reader, sammyg2 United Kingdom +, writes (3 November 2008):

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Thanks for all the advice, but I think I agree more with you supermum as I feel I can't possibly go back the way things are, as sooner or later this problem will rear its ugly head again anyway now it would be giving in to the situation, oh and as I live at my mothers he has tried to say if I loose him I will be on my own again unhappy single and lonely, as it took me ages to find this bloke and I did get really lonely when I was on my own, saying I won't find anyone else like him, anyway I still welcome anymore advice if you would like to give me anymore.

lonsam

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A female reader, Emilysanswers United Kingdom +, writes (2 November 2008):

Well then you just have to go and rent your own place and move all your furniture out and not live with him.

If he's not going to get rid of his stuff and you can't then you are not going to be able to live with him without having a mental breakdown.

If you get that upset by his mess then he is probably not a good long term partner for you.

Good Luck!! xx

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A female reader, sammyg2 United Kingdom +, writes (2 November 2008):

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Thanks for the advice Emily but I don't think you really understand, you say go back and make it clear to him that he must get rid, I don't think he will as being on the lazy side I can see if I move back nothing will happen.

As for letting me in that room I would't go in there if he let me as it really does upset me a lot, so no go there.

As for helping get rid of it sneakily it won't work like that even, as I have done that before, I threw some of his stuff out to help him and now its like he doesn;t trust me to be at home on my own with his stuff, cross examing me about what I have thrown out, he really has had all the offers and help from me to get rid but he still hangs on and I am at the end of my tether.

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A female reader, Emilysanswers United Kingdom +, writes (2 November 2008):

Telling him to do it or you're not coming back it clearly not a good plan as he is on a winner with the furniture.

So my suggestion is this....

Accept he's a hoarder and tell him you will move back in but he MUST keep the flat clean and tidy and ONLY put his stuff in "his" room. That's a nice compromise so he gets his room and you get a tidy 1 bed flat. But make it clear that his room is for his stuff but if there is something you need from in there then you can go in and get it. After all he's keeping it because it's useful!!

Now I am assuming that there are times when he is at work and you are not?

So when you are home alone, go into the room and just clear out a few things - like put half a pile of news papers in the recycle bin. Pick out a bag of toys and get them down to the charity shop.

Get on line and start advertising the rowing machine and then tell your boyfriend that "a guy at work offered you £X for a rowing machine as he is after one - should we get rid of it and have some extra cash for christmas?"

Set up an ebay account and show him how much he could get for his old laptops. Get onto your local freecycle and tell him what people want and see if he's willing to give a few things away.

If you gently persuade and sneakily chuck things out of the room then you will be able to get it back and train him up to stop doing this.

Good Luck!! x

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A female reader, supermum United Kingdom +, writes (2 November 2008):

supermum agony auntyou cant live in a situation where you are that unhappy. you were right, and you may face loosing him... however, would you rather live in an unhappy situation and build up resentment which will lead to arguments, or make a clean break and be happy

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