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Homosexuality versus Christianity

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Question - (1 July 2009) 24 Answers - (Newest, 7 July 2009)
A female South Africa age 30-35, anonymous writes:

So i wanted to know. Like eversince 15yrs i started finding women attractive and for some reason at age 5 me and my best friend had some lesbo interaction. I dont know what it is but some women just have an affect on me and i end up liking them. Now the thing is im scared. What if im lesbian. How will i hold my feelings back coz this is against religion. Did God make me like this or is the devil messing with me? I havent had a bf ever and i dont seem to find guys attractive to my heart. Please help!

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A male reader, netcruiser72 United States +, writes (7 July 2009):

To the female who posted the original question, I did not mean that YOU personally should marry a guy and multiply now or anytime soon. It was in general terms. What I meant to say is that the Lord created man and woman so they can come together and multiply. That was God's purpose.

Don't feel or get pressured into anything you are not ready for, whether it be having sex or having babies. It will all come to you naturally and in the right time. You will know when the time is right. Just use your head. Be smart and wise.

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A reader, anonymous, writes (7 July 2009):

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Hmmm....All such good answers. Uncle frank im not a lesbian, jus questioning things i feel at times. And about the multiplying thing netcruizer uhm what if i dont want to. Coz im scared of giving birth not to mention having sex. Sex is meaningless to me coz i dont feel that urge to want to do it coz i chose to lock away such feelings

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A male reader, netcruiser72 United States +, writes (7 July 2009):

Hey there heartfullalove,

Believe me, I am no hypocrite. I, too, being a Christian feel tempted to do many things. I am human living in a cursed and wicked world. I'm in a body that by it's very nature is wicked and sinful. That is why we Christians have a daily struggle between the flesh and the spirit. And yes, we sometimes fall short of God's glory by giving into temptation. Our flesh is willing but our spirit is not. That which I should NOT DO I do and that which I SHOULD DO I don't do. Oh wretched men that we are. But we are hopeful that the Lord Jesus Christ will redeem us because of our faith in Him and Him alone.

I KNOW I would greatly enjoy a threesome, myself with 2 other woman. I enjoy it with one, my wife, imagine 2 at the same time. Oh the possibilities. But that is the desires of the flesh. But as I read in the book of Philippians 4:13 ,"I can do all things through Christ which strengthens me." But you know what, I will never say never. Let's look at Peter the Apostle, he told Jesus he would give his life for Him. When it came down to it Peter denied the Lord. He let Jesus Christ down.

All I can say is that Jesus is MY Lord and everyday I wake up I ask him to give me the strength to overcome my daily temptations and keep me from falling into sin and to forgive my sins. But if I do sin the Lord is faithful and loving enough to forgive my sin so long as I confess my sin and repent of it from the heart. I love the Lord and I know he loves me so much he gave his life for me. And not just me but for the world and he is there waiting for you to accept him also for forgiveness of YOUR sins and for the gift of eternal life.

I still suggest that the Girl who posted the original question not fall into lesbianism. Homosexuality falls both ways. Woman are just as guilty as men in the eyes of the Lord. That is why the Bible is clear that God created Adam and Eve. Male and Female created He. Not male and male or female and female. Male and Female only to come together as one and multiply.

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A reader, anonymous, writes (7 July 2009):

Ah, I see, thanks Frank. So the people who wrote the Bible were entirely OK with girl-on-girl action, but the thought of men having gay sex creeped them out. So things haven't changed TOO much in the 2000 years since.

I love netcruiser72's comment: "Trust me, as a man I have wondered what it would be like to go to bed with 2 woman at the same time. I know my flesh would be greatly satisfied with that."

If you do succumb to temptation, netcruiser, PLEASE let us know how it went and how much you enjoyed it.

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A male reader, uncle Frank South Africa +, writes (7 July 2009):

uncle Frank agony auntDear lesbian, I wish to help you.

I started to write an answer but after thirty lines or so 'Mozilla Firefox' crashed.

I suppose I should not have written some the sarcastic comments I made about some of the answers that people who do not their God wrote to you.

God exists. He says: "I am". it means that He is.

To be is to exist.

Jesus His Only begotten Son has come to earth 2000 years ago to give us His Kind of 'impossible to die' Life, not more of our kind of 'life'.

When God chased Adam and Eve (and possibly Cain and Able as well) out of the garden 6000 years ago, He promised a way out of the troubles that Adam and Eve got us into with their original 'sin' of disobedience.

I have been encouraged by the comments (answers to you) by

Netcruiser 72.

Hi, Brother! I greet you!

My dear 'lesbian', the Bible, that is God's Word, does not say that a female must not have sex with another female!

Therefore: it is not sin for a female human to kiss and have sex with another female human!

God said that: 'a male (human) must not 'have sex' (lie down with) another male as he does with a female.'

The Hebrew has 'male' or 'female' and our Bible translators have changed it into man and woman. This started in 312AD when Eusebius wrote the first ever 'Bible'in Latin,the language of the 'vulgus' (populace=population) and so that first Bible was called the 'Vulgate'.

50 copies were made for Emperor Constantine the Great to distribute among the 50 'spiritual leaders' of this new and Official Religion of the Roman Empire.

When he moved the seat of the Roman Empire from Rome to Constantinople (in now Turkey) Constantine 'gave' the city of Rome to the chief bishop of Rome, the 'Pope'. 'Pope' comes from the Greek 'papa'= daddy or father. Nowadays it is 'Baba'.

In Aramaic, the language that Jesus spoke, it was 'Abba', as it is written in the New Testament.

Going back to that portion of Scripture that says that says 'Male man' must not have sex with another 'male man' as he does with a 'female man' please take note that the Hebrew language had 5 different words for a 'female', while the Greek has 4.

1.Baby girl, 2.adolescent virgin girl or female, 3.woman or married female, 4.widow, 5.female living in a state of widowood.

This make the Scriptures very precise and only fools will not believe Them.

The Bible says in fact: "The fool says that there is no God."

So: you are not sinning and the devil is not messing with you. Had you been a 'male' making 'love' to another 'male', it would have been another 'kettle of fish'.

The word 'homo' of 'homosexual' comes from Latin 'man, male'.

The word 'homeo' comes from Greek and it means 'the same' or 'of the same substance'.

So: 'Homeopathic' medicines= 'Curing illness with same' does not have the meaning of man or male.

They are the one who sin, not females.

The word 'sin' and such like expressions, only mean: 'To come short of God's requirements or instructions.'

Please believe what I write and be at peace: I have been studying the Bible, and not religion, for 34 years now. I know.

If you wish to be 'born again', if you have not yet done so,

or you wish to read the Bible AND understand it, you need to ask Jesus to come and live inside your body (heart) for the rest of your life and to lead, guide and protect you.

It is His FREE offer and requires no promise or undertaking from us. Jesus says that we will become 'new creatures' at the moment we ask Him that.

Once He starts to deal with us and show us the way, the Truths of the Bible, God will expect us 'to make decisions' and to have to suffer the consequences of our obedience or lack of it, to the Scriptures AS HE SHOW THEM TU US.

Not as other people say or tell us, but as He shows to us.

I can assure that it is a wonderful way to live.

I was 40 years old when I made my decision to receive Jesus and become born again. I am now 75 and what a life it has been!

God bless you, girl child.

uncle Frank

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A male reader, netcruiser72 United States +, writes (4 July 2009):

Hey there, it's netcruiser72, the "religious nut job" :) To the person who posted the question, you are welcome. I hope our answers will help you make the right decision. By the way, I am not a religious person. I simply believe in a man called Jesus Christ, I believe He is the son of our Living God and I maintain a personal relationship with Him. Just like so many here had the liberty to say that there is no God and you should fulfill your desires I have the liberty to claim that there is a God and that you should be careful with the decisions you make in life, especially those you know are morally wrong.

The only reason my answers were in relation to God is because your question included the word "religion" and because the first answers posted here stated that there is no God. But keep in mind that your conscience is already telling you that your desire for another woman is wrong. You know it, we all know it. For a woman to lie with another woman or a man to lie with another man, it is not normal and not the way it should be and it does not matter whether you believe in God or not to know it is wrong and abnormal behaviour. For the record, I do not hate homosexualls. I just don't agree with that lifestyle and neither does God. But they can change that if they trully wanted. But if personally believe in God here is what the Bible tells us: James 2:19 - "You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe and tremble."

And Matthew 7:13 "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it." 7:14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."

I would hope and pray that you become one of the "FEW" who finds the small narrow road and enter it to find life!

Anyway, you sound like a wonderful peron and I know your heart is in the right place. We all struggle with the desires of the flesh. I struggle every single day myself and I do fall flat on my face sometimes. Believe me I am no saint. I, too, am a worthless sinner and don't feel worthy of Gods grace. Trust me, as a man I have wondered what it would be like to go to bed with 2 woman at the same time. I know my flesh would be greatly satisfied with that. But I just can't get myself to give into my fleshly desires sometimes because the consequences can be disastrous. But I am thankful to God for the following Bible verse:

1 John 3:1 "My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have one who speaks to the Father in our defense--Jesus Christ, the Righteous One". He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

I am sure that you will find a great guy who will love you, respect you and one with whom you will live a wonderful life with. Good luck in anything you decide to do!

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A reader, anonymous, writes (3 July 2009):

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Thanx to everyone who had their say. Even those debating. I like that coz id also like to know the truth about God and everythng and i dont think anyone will coz everyone has different views and then who do we believe? Well about the whole lesbian thing i dont think i will act on it. I will give myself time coz i havent been with a guy and until then i would not know how it would be so i will wait. Its not that im ready for a bf or anything. Id just like to know who i am

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A reader, anonymous, writes (2 July 2009):

To the original poster:

If it is against your religion, then it is will power that you need to stop yourself from going after your urges. It's like a cigarette smoker. If you want to quit smoking, it takes will power to stop. You do this by throwing away all the packets of cigarettes and avoiding places of smoke and stores that sell cigarettes. Maybe join a support group and hang around with people that don't smoke. Counter your habits with something different like exercise or a new hobby. The list goes on.

So in this case, you can constantly remind yourself that you may be punished as a result of the choices you make now. You may apply your religious ideals into your day to day. Focus on what you think is not-sinful and work on the things that can still give you happiness.

Whether it is a god, gods and goddesses or aliens from a different dimension, a higher power that is beyond our comprehension and the devil(s) that try to influence you, when it comes down to it, this is a choice you are making on your own. Our minds play many tricks on us as we live through life. You only get tricked if you allow yourself to be tricked.

Think perceptively.

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As for Netcruiser72:

An atheist may be so bold to say there is no god that created an universe full of life, but a 'religious' person such as yourself is also just as bold to claim a god does exist because a book written by ancient superstitious men and possibly women, says so.

Your example of a house, a car and clothes comparing that of the 'creation' of humans and life is unfortunately out of context. You are comparing fruit salad with fusion bombs.

The bible which is made up of many volumes of essays and speeches made by various contributors, says many things. However, this is not the time and place to debate such material. We'll leave that to the more intellectual minds such as Richard Dawkins and Alistair McGrath.

Since the religion of Christianity has only existed for a little under 2000 years, you are preaching a relatively 'new' religion that shares many of the same 'metaphors' and references as with other more ancient religions. I suggest you take a course in world religion as well as do some further research on the Egyptian religions and Buddhism philosophies.

If you read through the various scriptures and research material, you will find that Jesus, Adam and Eve and other divine entities have other names and have existed in a different form and culture. In Buddhism, there is no mention of a god entity, nor is there any mention of a great flood or the creation of life. Considering the philosophy of Buddhism is much older than Christianity and the religions associated to ancient Egyptians have a great many number of similarities with the the stories in the Christian bible, how could you be so bold as to claim Christianity is the one religion in the entire span of the universe as the 'true' one?

You are not any better nor wiser than (a generalized idea) the boldness of an atheist. In many ways, you are one and the same - same coin, different sides.

Before the Christian god, there were many gods before it. Before Jesus Christ, there were many such demi-humans before him. Before the scriptures of the bible, there were many texts before that. Which is right? Which is wrong?

It is obvious that if one party wishes for absolute control, it would condemn other beliefs.

I would not be so bold to declare there is no god, gods and goddesses, but I would also not be so gullible to believe there is a god, gods and goddesses. Like the words of a 'wise' neighbor, I read and listen as a guiding medium, but would not be so 'unwise' to follow every word someone spouts out. Especially if the source is interpretable.

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A female reader, Tisha-1 United States +, writes (2 July 2009):

Tisha-1 agony auntOkay, the original question has been overlooked in the debate now. Can we keep our eye on the original poster, please?

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A male reader, netcruiser72 United States +, writes (2 July 2009):

This is netcruier72, the silly one, according to some people. For a person to say that there, "is no God" that person must have ABSOLUTE KNOWLEDGE meaning that person knows absolutely everything. So, if you have absolute knowledge can you tell me how much money I am carrying in my wallet at this time? Can you please tell me also the type of bill, whether it's ones, tens, twenties, etc? I don't think anyone can. So if you can't tell me exactly how much money I am carrying in my wallet, without looking into my wallet, how can you tell me for certainty that their is no God? Are you just guessing and if so why? Because you decided earlier in life that you were going to live your life believing that "there is no God" and know you go around telling people that their is no God as if you were 100% sure of it. I mean, you can't even tell me what is going to happen a day from today but yet you say there is no God.

Let me tell you what the bible does say and again I know I will rub people the wrong way, but hey, I still love you guys. Anyway, here is what the Bible says. But since some of you don't believe in God neither will you believe the bible. But you will one day and you'll tremble. The book of Psalms 53:1 says, “The fool says in his heart, ‘There is no God.’” Proverbs 3:7 "Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil."

People say "nature" created the world or that we "evolved" from some form of oganism or whatever. It defies common sense. Think about this, if I told you that a piece of wood, lets say a 2x4, was laying on the ground and through the passing of time that 2x4 evolved into a beautiful Mansion with all the rooms and amenities for comfort living. Really, would you believe that a piece of wood, all by itself through the passing of time, evolved or transformed into a beautiful mansion. RIDICULOUS!!!. It makes no sense because you and I know it is impossible. We know that a house or mansion was created. It did not just come into existence. It was created by who? An architect who drew up the floor plans and brought in all the materials required to build a beautiful house. Your car was "created". Your clothes were "created". Every building, every structure you see, everything you have in your house right now...WAS CREATED. So why is it so hard for people to believe that our complicated universe and everything in it was "CREATED". Our very own bodies are a million times more complicated than anything man has created. Now, we know that man did not create the human being. A powerful being that so many of you refuse to believe in, is our creator. Creator of the universe and everything that is in it. It simply goes agains all reason and common sense to believe that our very complicated bodies just happened to evolve into what it is now our Human body or human form. I mean, every single human being has a different finger print. Coincidence. Nonsense is what it is. It is Intelligence coming from our Almighty God, our CREATOR!

But let me tell you why people refuse to believe in God our Creator, John 3:19 - "This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. 21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God."

Who is that light? Jesus Christ is the light, God almighty. Call me silly or anything you want but the truth is the truth and the TRUTH shall make you free!

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A female reader, Tisha-1 United States +, writes (2 July 2009):

Tisha-1 agony auntSomeone posted this link on another site and I thought it made for interesting reading:

http://1stholistic.com/Reading/liv_letter-from-god.htm

Makes you think about things.

I for one, do not think that you are flawed. You are yourself, unique and precious. Relax and spend some time thinking about this without panicking. The answers will come in time.

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A reader, anonymous, writes (2 July 2009):

there is no such thing as 'god' and i will also state netcruiser72 is silly. nature created the world and animals etc. and there is nothing wrong with being homo whether 'god' says so or not.

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A female reader, anonymous, writes (2 July 2009):

If homosexuality is a SIN, why did God make us gay? We are the children of God, we all agree on this. Some were born gay, does that mean that they are born "SINNERS"? I don't think so. And i am so curious, which part of Bible does it say that "Homosexuality is a sin" or "Homosexuals will burn in hell"? God love us, God want us to be happy. God does not make us sinners (homosexuals) when we were born into this world. Sinners are devils---who kill and do not have a good heart and have no contribution to the society and do NOT KNOW HOW TO LOVE. I am gay, but that doesnt make me a sinner. I'm agnostic btw. I have made donations to the poor, helped out many friends, love my family and friends and I have always been praying for people who are less fortunate than me to have a better life that they deserve (i seriously do)---AM I STILL A SINNER?

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A male reader, netcruiser72 United States +, writes (2 July 2009):

I knew I would ruffle some feathers with my comments. God, Jesus Christ and the Bible are always touchy subjects and fast to create controversies. Especially since we live in such a liberal society where people seem to think that it is okay to do things we KNOW are morally wrong without suffering any consequences for our actions. Such is the reason this world is so decayed.

Anyway, here is what the Bible does say. You can believe it or reject it. It is up to you: 2 Timothy 3:16 - ALL Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness. And in the book of Acts 5:29 - Peter and the other apostles replied: "We must obey God rather than men!

At the end of the day, when you ask a question like the one you asked, you will have answers coming from both the right and the left. It is up to YOU to make the decision that you feel will benefit you the most. Nobody forces you to do what you don't want. Nobody is holding you with a gun to your head. That is the beauty of Free Will. Not even God will mess with your Free Will. But he is watching. Be wise in your decision making. Unfortunatley, most times we will make the wrong decisions. And we pay for them.....SOONER OR LATER.

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A female reader, anonymous, writes (1 July 2009):

That bible wasn't written or approved by God. There is nothing more off-putting to me than individuals who are arrogant enough to presume they know what God's thoughts are. You will never be happy if you aren't true to yourself. I know that much. Repressing that part of yourself doesn't do anybody any favors. I hope you are able to freely explore and accept your sexuality.

And don't listen to netcruiser72-- he is a very silly man. :)

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A male reader, netcruiser72 United States +, writes (1 July 2009):

If you don't believe there is a God, if you are athiest, then live your life the way you want without boundaries or limitations.

Personally, I do believe there is a God. And the Bible does tell us that Homosexuality is an abomination before Gods eyes and the bible does declare that ALL homesexuals will not inherit his kingdom. Now, I want to make it clear that I did not make up those rules, It is Gods Word. If you believe in him you will take them serious if you don't believe you will simply throw those words out the window.

Now, it is true that God created us with free will to do as we please but he has made it clear that what we do will have consequences. God is not a dictator. God is a God of love and his desire is for us to seek him and love him voluntarily. He will not force himself upon us. Think of this, our city or county or state has laws that our politicians have put into place. If there is a sign that says you cannot drive over 60 MPH does that mean that it is okay to drive past 60mph. Of course not. The law expects you to abide by the rules. So, if you break the law, what happens, you either get a ticket or maybe even go to jail. So, God also has a set of rules and laws that we must abide by. If you break those rules or laws there will be consequences. God DID NOT make you that way, to want to be with another woman. We become that way because we have a very sinful nature and our flesh is very curious about many things that do not please God. We sometimes fall into those temptations and the problem is that we end up liking it and become a slave to certain acts of sin. But how great is our God that he is willing to forgive our sins if we agree to accept his son Jesus Christ and stop "PRACTICING" sin. As a believer, we will still sin, but we must stop practicing sin. Big difference. Keep in mind that our powerful God loves the sinner but hates our sin. So, at the end of the day you need to do some soul searching. Do you want to feed your flesh through sexual activity that goes against Gods work. Or do you prefer to fulfill the desires of your flesh and face sever consequences later on. It is your decision to make. It your life, your soul!

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A reader, anonymous, writes (1 July 2009):

Ok so i am christian and have asked this question myself before. Yes it is a sin. Its the devil inside your head. Thats the bibical answer. But whats the diffrence between this and women having power. Women are second to man in the whole bible.

God did not say everything in there. It was mans veiw on what he said. The only thing absoulty true is what is written red.

I do not belive that you shouldnt have the right to do whatever you want to do. Cause that is what mi countrys foundation is based on. But i dnt condone it either.

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A female reader, Starlights United Kingdom +, writes (1 July 2009):

Starlights agony auntadam and eve were created

not adam + adam.

or eve + eve

now im not saying im a religioust or against gays, no, each person has free will and entitled to do as he/she wishes.

you feel guilty for what ur doing.

this means u feel within yourself that u r doing something sinful.

in this case u have to bring urself into alignment with your feelings and stop doing what u percieve as sin.

u never found guys attractive becoz u havent given them a chance.

if u dont want to be a lesbian then the best thing u can do is stop dwelling on the past, and cut yourself some slack.

who made u this way? well urself of course. u chose to feel like this , its not god choosing it for you.

have a deep think about what u want and follow your heart.

its usually right.

good luck!

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A female reader, anonymous, writes (1 July 2009):

One day, all of this is going to become very clear to you. You are going to realise that you, as a human being, are special, worthy of love and unique in your own way. Also, you will hopefully have the courage to reject stupid ideologies that try to tell you that you are sinful, dirty and wrong.

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A reader, anonymous, writes (1 July 2009):

Don't worry about it, why would God make you a lesbian if he didn't want to you be and to live your life happy?

If lesbianism is a sin, then did God not sin by creating lesbians? If God can sin so can we.

If he didn't want us to sin he could have made it impossible for us to do so. He endowed us with a free will, free to make our own choices but lesbianism is not a choice, it is part of who a person is and homosexuals were all born that way, hence made by God that way. It is presumption of man that made homosexuality a sin. If you have no choice in the matter then how can it be a sin?

If it is a sin to question God and not respect his creations then how is it acceptable to condemn homosexuality when it is also one of his creations.

If God made people homosexual and then said they can't act upon it, then that's not a God worth believing in and believe me there is no such God.

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A male reader, cybrus United States +, writes (1 July 2009):

Ok well I thought of the same question myself. (im not gay I n just lik to think about stuff) If you think it is a sin to date the same sex which it is I believe then you have to realize all sins are equal there isn't a sin worse than another because it is still a sin at the end of the day. just as long as you ask god to forgive them and truely mean it he will forgive you. let me know if that helps you a bit.

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A male reader, citic101 France +, writes (1 July 2009):

citic101 agony auntDont worry "God" doesnt care if you love a women or men or what ever as there isnt a " GOD " he is just a tale made up to keep us in line and to obey the church.

We laught at the greeks for beleiving in Zeus, Apollo and Hera an in future the ones who come after us will laught at us for beleiving in jesus and God.

be happy and love who you want

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A female reader, anonymous, writes (1 July 2009):

well religion has a way of looking down on homosexuals and think of them as sinful people who the devil messed with. But the truth is none of thats true and believe me religion is just a bunch confused people frightened about things and are afraid to loose the influence they've gained so its perfectly okay to be a lesbien.

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A female reader, kellyxxx United Kingdom +, writes (1 July 2009):

kellyxxx agony auntI'm sure that if there is a god out there then he will be happy as long as you are happy. Just do whatever you feel is right for you! X

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