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writes:I've never been remotely interested in a guy like that. It just absolutely puts me off. It's like someone knows I wouldn't be interested in him if he acts like his normal self, so he has to put on a "front" and try manipulative mind games like "negging" me and lowering my self-esteem and basically treating me like a puzzle game which you can get sex out of if you just push the right buttons. I've read "The Game" and the way it encourages guys to treat girls is disgusting, it's like they're pieces of meat. If I see a guy trying any technique from that book on me I know he has no respect for me or my actual feelings, so I usually turn him down ASAP in the worst way possible.I think there's a difference between being a pick-up artist and just being the best version of yourself and trying to pull girls and the difference lies in how you project yourself. The former tries to conceal what he really wants and has no respect for whether a girl actually wants to be with him or not - hence the manipulative mind games. The latter might include stuff like going to the gym regularly, dressing well or being polite, but is more focused around what you do then doing stuff to provoke the reaction you want in a girl because you "understand exactly how women think." Anyone else feel the same way? Reply to this Question
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reader, TrancedRhythmEar  +, writes (19 May 2013):
 Lol this post is hilarious. Who needs lines when youve got muscle like this.
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reader, anonymous, writes (19 May 2013): I'm with you, OP. It's a huge turn-off, mainly because once I find out a guy believes this crap I know I've been interacting with a fake persona, not a real person. I found out a guy I'd been on a few dates with was taking his cues from that stupid book and I broke off contact immediately. Just wasn't interested after that. It's so tacky and hard to respect!
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reader, anonymous, writes (19 May 2013): If you don't like pickup artists then don't go to places like bars or pubs where they hang out and wait to pounce on
you. You make positive change in your life so you don't have to count on bars or pubs to meet men. Get involved in the community you live in so people can get to know who you really are and not just some pretty skirt waiting to get jumped on by pick up artists and predators. Good-luck..
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reader, no nonsense Aidan +, writes (18 May 2013):
Quite simply, if it doesn’t feel right for you, leave it. That’s the reality of meeting and dating. But remember that men can be just as confused about what a girl wants to see as women can about what guys want. Don’t rush to judge some-one who may be misguidedly trying to impress, yes sometimes you can spot a player a mile off, but sometimes people don’t always see the difference between concealment and showing their best. Although they are different as you very eloquently point out. I suppose if you’re clear in your mind, fine. But I would say, if he’s exhibiting the kind of behaviour you consider to be devious and manipulative, have a good look to see how comfortable he seems to be doing that. If he looks out of place, maybe give him a chance to relax a bit and start to show his true character? You have nothing to lose because if things aren’t right, you can call something off after a date or two without being particularly emotionally invested in to him.
I wish you all the very best.
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