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writes: I need some advice. I dont mention this to my friends because people think we have the perfect relationship and it is, well almost.... I have been with my partner for two years, he is my dream man, when we first met and still to this day there is huge chemistry between us, we love being in each others company, are affectionate, cuddle, kiss and hold hands all the time. We do lots of things together and have our own friends and do things apart, we laugh, are playful and are very happy in each others company and have a very well balanced relationship. We have a great sex life, however something has always bothered me. It always seems to be me that initiates sex, when I do, he never rejects me and it is both passionate and loving, on so many levels I feel so close. But over time I feel increasingly sad that he never initates sex with me and I feel so undesirable, this puzzles me as he always tells me I look beautiful, stunning, that he loves me so much and is proud of me. I know when we first met he was being gentlemanly, but we have been together sometime now and recently married and I just feel so sad and undesirable. I am very slim, have a good figure, above average looking and a nice person. I have on several ocassions tried to discuss it. I have been met with various answers, but whats at the back of my mind is that he has in the past ( before we met) had a lot of women and I know of an incident where he went off with a girl in less than an hour of knowing her, in my friends car of all places. i wouldnt care about this, if he was like it with me - even ocassionally. Why doesnt he carry me off like this ? He has said he's sorry he's made me feel this way, for him he doesnt understand, how dejected I feel as Im always initating sex with him and he always feels secure and desirable and irresistable. As he wont talk to me my mind goes off at a tangent and its easy to go off and draw wrong conclusions. In my mind hes this mad red blooded male, whos slept with 100's of women, yet im the one he says he's madly in love with, the only one he's ever wanted to marry,when he looks at me he is so smitten and we are so close, but he's not comfortable talking about stuff like this.He's even said that he sometimes cant believe im with him and that he thinks im too good for him, which made me very sad as its completely riduculous.He wont tell me how many people hes slept with, which makes me think it must be really high and I want to be able to talk to one another about anything, which he says he can, yet he doesnt. I wonder whether he's just like it with me or whether this is just the way he is built. So many unanswered questions. We have had a very tough time over the last 18 months, where life has been very challenging with our jobs, long hours and a family member seriously ill, who we lost and has devasted us, and we have stood together as each other's rock, we dont know what we would have done without one another. Im trying to factor all of this in, im an intelligent person and have tried to apply logic and reason, but I still feel so alone and the situation is still unanswered. Would welcome thoughts / advice. thanks
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reader, katelynn781 +, writes (8 April 2010):
I know this is a late answer but I too have this problem!! At first I was always trying to get my fiance to want to have sex with me. He would usually refuse, roll over, or say he was tired and had to get up early. So I talked to him and told him I was sick of being turned down so I was going to stop initiating or trying all the time. I think this scared him a little because he said he didn't want me to stop, and that he would let me know when he wanted to. For a few days, there was nothing. We would go to bed and no sex. After a bit of me not initiating, he finally started opening up and wanting it again, and he would let me know. Its much easier on both of us because I don't feel rejected, and he understands that its ok for him to ask me to touch him. Best of luck. x
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reader, anonymous, writes (9 January 2009): hey...! couldnt empathise more than this with anyone.... i have the exact same issue.....! except that hes my BF and we have been together for 2 years now and plan to get married!!!! i havent been able to solve my issue cuz i havent spoken to anyone about it but now when i saw you are facing the same thought ill share my thoughts with you....there are a few things that you need to consider before drawing any conclusions....a)does he lack initiation only in the sae of love making or in everything cuz some people simply like to follow and let their woman lead!!!b)you said he is perfect in all other ways come on.... wee all have our flaws....maybe he genuinly has noo control in this particular situation ....though all women like to think.... ALL MEN ARE NOT THE SAME.c) you yourself said he admits you are better than him and he is lucky to have you, you have no doubts about your self worth so .... why let this small thing make you feel otherwise!? trust me i totally let it but sometimes you have to overlook certain things!!!!d) men that think there wives/Gfs are better/attractive love to be chased when it comes to making love.... it makes them feel desirable!!they too need to feel good now having a good looking wife can be intimidating at times....(hey one more way of saying he thinks ur gorgeous) :-)as far as feeling bad is concerned there have been times when i have felt so low just cuz my BF dint intiate love making but then when i think about it.... he normally doesnt throw me off just doesnt initiate so end if the day i do get what i want!!! does he respond when u initiate? if so.... then the problem isnt as bad as it looks!i can understand u feel as u do cuz he had a past and a busy one.... just like my BF it adds up to the insecurity doesnt it? but then its the past we all have our past.... but what should matter is the present..... right?now as far as dealing with this problem goes.... why dont you try to talk to him about it clearly ....., tell him exactly how you feel ,men are not mind readers in fact they re so careless that they sometimes dont even notice the obvious... we all know that but dont admit it cuz its just too silly but then.... it makes them what they are!if you think you can start off by talking right away.... just observe him for a good amount of time......and yes stop initiating it for a while till he notices its very difficult no one would know this better than me but think bout the long term pleasure for momentary pain! what say.... try it out let him chase you.....remember men like the chase after u being dormant when he initiates stay strong and dont respond... dont be rude though dont let him ever know youve planned this..... just wait and watch you'll be thanking me by the end of this..... all the best!
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reader, anonymous, writes (4 October 2008): I am sad to say this, but I am happy in a strange/sad way that other women have the same problem as me...I'm engaged to a wonderful beyond belief man. We have been dating for 7 years, 6 long distance, 1 year living together. He's smart, sweet, kind, generous, affectionate,sexy, everything a woman could want. What's the problem? in the last year we've had sex 3 times, and basically because I BEGGED for it. My fiance is a doctor, and we used to see each other once a month, because we lived 2000 miles away from each other. Before we moved in together, we had sex at least twice during the one weekend together every month. But now that I live with him, 3 times in a year??? No, he's not gay, I'm 100% sure of that. No, there isn't someone else.I take good care of myself, I'm always neat, clean, told I'm attractive, I'm college educated, I'm not bitchy (people tell me I'm the nicest person they know), I'm told I'm really funny...(ok, you get the idiot..I'm not a pig)... I know that he loves me, I'm sure of it. But he can find every reason in the world to not have sex! He hugs me, kisses me, comes over and touches me for no reason, he cuddles with me...but if I make a sexual advancement, most of the time he sort of laughs, tolerates it, or sort of makes an excuse of something he has to do, or we have to do..or changes the subject. He never outright flatly refuses, but you know when someone just doesn't feel like it, right? I've tried so many times to talk about it, and get nowhere..."I'm tired, I'm stressed, I'm sorry.." are the answers. I've threatened to leave---He just says "I love you, I'm sorry...I'm old", he's cried about it, I know he's really scared that I will leave him. (he's 41..he's not that old!)I've cried myself to sleep so many times, the tears just won't come anymore....I love him so very very much and just to see him, touch him be near him excites me and yet I know he doesn't feel these things in return, not with the passion that I do. We've both been married before, so I know what is "normal" in a marriage regarding sex and what isn't. I have just had to accept that he isn't a very sexual person. About once a month, he'll make the move that he'd like oral sex, and I never refuse, I enjoy it...but oh how I wish he'd make some sort of move for regular sex! When we do have sex, its really so very sweet and wonderful and I MISS IT SO MUCH!!! I guess what I'm trying to say is that some men just really truly aren't horny 24/7, and they are happy/content to just have us around. I know people might say our men are cheating, aren't in love, ect...but I don't believe that is always the case. Some people just really don't "feel the need" very often. So I guess for all of us who are with this kind of partner, you have to decide if you love them enough to put up with it, or can you not handle it. I have come to think of my fiance as a very sexy room mate, someone that I adore, but he's sort of off limits for me. I can't imagine life without him, so leaving him is not an option for me, neither is cheating. My heart belongs only to him. I wish I could give any of you answers, but I can't. I tell myself it could be so much worse for me, but sometimes that just isn't enough...I'm sorry, I know I didn't help anyone. But you are definetely not alone ladies. You can ask your man to see a doctor, get help, and perhaps it will work. My guy just says he is really stressed and please can I understand? I thought sex helped relieve stress??!! LOL...Sorry this is so long..if anyone has any advice, please let me know..
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reader, anonymous, writes (4 October 2008): I am sad to say this, but I am happy in a strange/sad way that other women have the same problem as me...I'm engaged to a wonderful beyond belief man. We have been dating for 7 years, 6 long distance, 1 year living together. He's smart, sweet, kind, generous, affectionate,sexy, everything a woman could want. What's the problem? in the last year we've had sex 3 times, and basically because I BEGGED for it. My fiance is a doctor, and we used to see each other once a month, because we lived 2000 miles away from each other. Before we moved in together, we had sex at least twice during the one weekend together every month. But now that I live with him, 3 times in a year??? No, he's not gay, I'm 100% sure of that. No, there isn't someone else.I take good care of myself, I'm always neat, clean, told I'm attractive, I'm college educated, I'm not bitchy (people tell me I'm the nicest person they know), I'm told I'm really funny...(ok, you get the idiot..I'm not a pig)... I know that he loves me, I'm sure of it. But he can find every reason in the world to not have sex! He hugs me, kisses me, comes over and touches me for no reason, he cuddles with me...but if I make a sexual advancement, most of the time he sort of laughs, tolerates it, or sort of makes an excuse of something he has to do, or we have to do..or changes the subject. He never outright flatly refuses, but you know when someone just doesn't feel like it, right? I've tried so many times to talk about it, and get nowhere..."I'm tired, I'm stressed, I'm sorry.." are the answers. I've threatened to leave---He just says "I love you, I'm sorry...I'm old", he's cried about it, I know he's really scared that I will leave him. (he's 41..he's not that old!)I've cried myself to sleep so many times, the tears just won't come anymore....I love him so very very much and just to see him, touch him be near him excites me and yet I know he doesn't feel these things in return, not with the passion that I do. We've both been married before, so I know what is "normal" in a marriage regarding sex and what isn't. I have just had to accept that he isn't a very sexual person. About once a month, he'll make the move that he'd like oral sex, and I never refuse, I enjoy it...but oh how I wish he'd make some sort of move for regular sex! When we do have sex, its really so very sweet and wonderful and I MISS IT SO MUCH!!! I guess what I'm trying to say is that some men just really truly aren't horny 24/7, and they are happy/content to just have us around. I know people might say our men are cheating, aren't in love, ect...but I don't believe that is always the case. Some people just really don't "feel the need" very often. So I guess for all of us who are with this kind of partner, you have to decide if you love them enough to put up with it, or can you not handle it. I have come to think of my fiance as a very sexy room mate, someone that I adore, but he's sort of off limits for me. I can't imagine life without him, so leaving him is not an option for me, neither is cheating. My heart belongs only to him. I wish I could give any of you answers, but I can't. I tell myself it could be so much worse for me, but sometimes that just isn't enough...I'm sorry, I know I didn't help anyone. But you are definetely not alone ladies. You can ask your man to see a doctor, get help, and perhaps it will work. My guy just says he is really stressed and please can I understand? I thought sex helped relieve stress??!! LOL...Sorry this is so long..if anyone has any advice, please let me know..
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reader, anonymous, writes (19 April 2008): I've had the same mystifying, frustrating marriage for over 11 years. It's almost as if my husband is doing penance for all the promiscuity he pursued before, by denying himself (and ME) pleasure. We're very affectionate with each other and love each other, and he unquestionably wants to be with me; but he'd ALWAYS rather do anything other than be intimate: watch a DVD, talk about politics, work on the car. Using the excuse that he's got so many bills to pay and no idea of how he'll ever get ahead, he can't take time (10 minutes? 20 minutes?) for being sexual with me. He NEVER initiates it. He used to actually physically resist it. At least now he knows he has to acquiesce, or I'll give up on the marriage. But how sexual is that? Me having to pull off his clothes and impose myself on him. And how spoiled is that? Spurning an enthusiastic mate who loves him and his body and wants to be sexual together?! As one of the posts here remarked, having a man (you desire) throw sexual heat your way actually gets a woman's body warmed up and eager physiologically for sex. If you have to beg for it and demand it, your body goes the other way: gets tense and dry and dead inside. I'm 57 and attractive and fit, and it makes me so sad to think of endlessly not being able to look forward to MUTUALLY desirous sex. Don't want to have extramarital lying (or risk HIV--they say even condoms aren't 100% safe), but also don't want to be so unhealthy sexually because my husband is out of touch with his own sexuality. A man should consider it an honor and a gift for a woman he likes/loves to make herself sexually available for him. It's so demeaning to be treated as if I'm not at all a sexual being.
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reader, anonymous, writes (23 March 2008): Hey there....I understand how you are feeling...alone. I how the best relationship I ever thought I would ever have in my life. I met a guy that accepts me and my teenage daughter for who we are....and that is great! Yet, our sex life is terrible and it seems to be the biggest stress of our lives. We/I argue about it all the time. He is sensitive and considerate in every aspect of our lives, but when it comes to sex and intimacy......he is not there. I have brought it up so many times.....yet he avoids the topic and it only makes me more insecure. I'm not sure if I am venting here or if I have helped you in any way.....but it sure helped me to get this off my chest?
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reader, anonymous, writes (5 July 2007): This is verified as being by the original poster of the questionThanks for your time and trouble. I have found it very helpful and some useful suggestions. I agree that when we talk about it, it then puts pressure on him, so if he does then initiative it then it feels forced rather than natural, so its like he can win either way. I'll see how things go, be more easy going about things and perhaps that will take the pressure off and he'll feel more relaxed and I'll let you know how things progress. Many thanks for sharing your experience and advice. xxx
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reader, anonymous, writes (4 July 2007): Hello there, I know exactly how you feel. My husband and I have been married for 5 years. We have a wonderful relationship but he never initiates sex either. Even though he is so loving in many other ways and when we do have sex it's great, because he never initiates I tend to get frustrated and do not feel desired sexually. As you would probably know being a woman when they initiate too, it really gets you aroused more to know they want you, and sex can feel even more fantastic.
I have found that discussing it can be like hitting a brick wall and it actually make them feel insufficent as a lover which is deadly for men. My husband also had many girlfriends before me and was used to them chasing him that he never had to initate that much, and they do tend to get comfortable once you get married. If they are stressed or upset due to the family situations it can really affect them too.
My advice it stop talking about as much be really happy and light hearted tell him how great he is in bed so he feels built up and positive. He probably has fears initiating if you have discussed it, it has probably become a pressure to him, as I have discovered. It sounds corny but have a jar with fun ways you would like him to sexually surprise you and he can ad suggestions for you too. Men need to be directed its not their fault sometimes they just don't get it. When you want him to do more at the start just cheakily tell him. So it a fun and positive way to direct him. You probably know men don't have ESP I wish they did but so we just have to tell them. Give this a go and let me know how ot goes. I have been reading lots on this topic and Im going to put these things to the test too. Goodluck Chicky and thing on all the fantastic things your man sounds great make sure he know that. Hehe
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reader, anonymous, writes (30 June 2007): With all due respect, what has that got to do with my situation ? I have never distrusted him or gone checking up on him. I've never felt the need to do that, I dont think for a moment that he is cheating on me......Im afraid there's no smoke without fire, your wife / girlfriend obviously feels that something is amiss if she has to watch your every move like that and check up on you, that's certainly no way to go on, it sounds awful.... Once you are in that situation and there's no trust the situation will only ever go down hill. Thanks for your comments, but I cant see that they relate to the discussion in any way. Sorry !
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reader, anonymous, writes (29 June 2007): I use to love having wild sex with my wife, when she was my girlfriend. When she started searching my laptop, trying to get into emails and succeeding by doing so, and watching my eyes when we are out at lounges and clubs, I COMPLETELY LOST SEXUAL INTEREST FOR HER....When she stepped across that line, somewhere, i just started losing interest in her and seeing her as a sexual person.So after we got married, the same continued
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reader, anonymous, writes (26 June 2007): This is verified as being by the original poster of the questionDear Flower Girl, Thanks for your reply, very kind to spend your time trying to help someone you dont know :-))) I dont think he's depressed, he may be a little down, its a very long story. I certainly get depressed, as it was one of my parents we lost and very tragically. But that aside he was like this with me right from the start and I always thought when you first got together with someone and they were the love of your life that you would be constantly ripping each others clothes off !! Ok, well at least both desiring one another fairly equally at least ! OI know not everyone's the same, but other boyfriends I've had have always wanted me. I really feel heartbroken sometimes that I dont get that from him, yet I totally adore him, which is so difficult to deal with...
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reader, anonymous, writes (26 June 2007): This is verified as being by the original poster of the questionThanks for your reply. Im very grateful you have taken the time to give your thoughts to a complete stranger. I dont want to talk to my friends, even though they are friends I often think that other people seem to get someting out of the fact that someonelses relationship is not as it should be. Funnily enough, this is a scenario I have thought about. it has crossed my mind that perhaps he is behaving differently because I really mean something to him, he wouldnt have married me otherwise. I asked him about the girl and the "car" episode and he said he had no respect for her and that he took her up on the offer because he hadnt had sex for ages, it meant nothing. He has never been married before, and has spent most of his adult life single, he has told me that he's never come close to wanting to marry anyone or feeling so content and happy and truly in love with anyone before and that he held out to meet the right person. When we met, for both of us, it was like two worlds colliding..... I think he is ashamed of his past, but I would rather he could talk to me about it if thats the way he feels. I might not like what he has done before, but thats whats made him who he is and who I love and its in the past which we cant change. I know he's commented before about a friend who married his childhood sweetheart and against all odds are still together nearly 2o years later and still v much in love - he said he wishes that could have happened to him and that he hated being single ! I am going to hold off and see what happens. Its hard to explain, just how hard it is when it comes across as he doesnt desire me and I want him at every opportunity. i also think maybe because he perhaps had loads of one night stands rather than relationships he has been used to irregular sex or sex as and when rather than having a relationship and perhaps that is taking some getting used to / I dont know........
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reader, anonymous, writes (26 June 2007): Maybe he has just had so many partners & so much meaningless sex, that with you he doesn't want to feel that way. So when you initiate it, that doesn't remember him to the way he used to be where he probably took these women & did whatever he did with them. I'm sure he must have initiated it when it was just meaningless sex. Maybe he is just burnt out on sex, and that it's not that important to him as much because he's done it with so many ppl. and makes him feel maybe bad about his past. has he ever been married before? If not, that says something that he wnated to marry you. Maybe you should just try not initiating sex, & see if he does after a while of not having any. Thye fact that he won't tell you how many sex partners he's had probably means he is ashamed of it.
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reader, flower girl +, writes (26 June 2007):
It might be a possibility that he is suffering with depression, as it sounds from what you have said you have been through an awful lot in a short space of time.
I would forget the sex life he had before you two met as that was in the past so leave it there, you say you have mentioned it in the past to him how you feel and you have been met with different responces, can i ask what these responces have been just that it might give a bit more insight.
Take care.xx
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